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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm fine being a test pilot with RC
models.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For full scale, I'm happy with staying inside known
operating limits.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The NASA guy I mentioned doing spin testing had
airplanes modified with a parachute attached to tail,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>quick release pins in pilots door, and wore a
parachute. Says he used the tail parachute to recover</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>from some spins, and thought about pulling the door
pins, but never actually got forced into that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ron Lockhart</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=drykert2@rochester.rr.com href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com">Del
K. Rykert</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:36
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cross
Wind Components</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>What true pattern pilot isn't also
a test pilot? Our planes certification is a successful maiden flight.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> Del</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>----- Original Message -----
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>From: "Ron Lockhart" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>ronlock@comcast.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<</FONT><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007
8:48 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Cross Wind Components</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>I agree with John K's comments.<BR>>
Years ago received a briefing from a NASA test pilot that ran a light<BR>>
aircraft study<BR>> of spin capability. He also made the point that
when you exceed the number<BR>> of spin<BR>> turns you have become a
test pilot. Also noted that in his spin testing he<BR>> had
found<BR>> a number of planes that acted no different after exceeding the
certified<BR>> number, and<BR>> also a number that got real nasty.
He also noted if CG is out of limits,<BR>> your a test pilot.<BR>>
<BR>> Later Ron Lockhart<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----
<BR>> From: "John Konneker" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jlkonn@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jlkonn@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>> To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>><BR>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:10
AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Crashing on takeoff and
landing<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>> Chris Moon may want to correct me if I'm
wrong but...<BR>>> Crosswind components.<BR>>> The term is
"demonstrated crosswind component" and is just that...the<BR>>> maximum
that was demonstrated during certification.<BR>>> Talking full size
here.<BR>>> You may not have the skill to successfully land with the DCC
or you may be<BR>> a<BR>>> good enough pilot to successfully exceed
the DCC.<BR>>> The DCC is not the absolute limit of the airplane
capability.<BR>>> Same with spins.<BR>>> Something like a C-152
Aerobat is approved for spins.<BR>>> 3 turns were demonstrated during
certification.<BR>>> They too may be exceeded...<BR>>> The only
thing when you do you are entering the realm of "Test Pilot".<BR>>>
:-)<BR>>> There!<BR>>> I'm going back to bed.<BR>>> My head
hurts!<BR>>> JLK<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> >From: "Del K.
Rykert" <</FONT><A href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>drykert2@rochester.rr.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>> >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>><BR>>> >To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<</FONT><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>><BR>>> >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Crashing on takeoff and landing<BR>>> >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007
07:55:43 -0400<BR>>> ><BR>>> >Basically two big
reasons. People sometimes have not mastered the<BR>>>
>transitory part of leaving or arriving in wind and all flying
vehicles<BR>> have<BR>>> >a crosswind limit that they can be
landed and taking off in. If it is<BR>>> >exceeded crashes are often
the result. Even the shuttle does and the<BR>>> >Concorde had
crosswind limits.<BR>>> ><BR>>> >
Del<BR>>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>>>
> From: </FONT><A href="mailto:rjo626@aol.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rjo626@aol.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>>> > To: </FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>>> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007
6:46 PM<BR>>> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion]
Turbulence<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>>
> Then why do more people seem to
crash on takeoff or landing on<BR>>> >windy days?<BR>>>
>
RJO<BR>>>
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