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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>and I love that idea best of
all.. Also with utmost respect.. puts ones money where their
conviction is.. <G> </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> Del</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>From: "John Konneker" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jlkonn@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jlkonn@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:50
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Weather Vane or Crab</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> Sigh....<BR>> With all due respect to
everyone involved in this discussion.<BR>> Let me suggest that you invest a
$100 or so in a flight in a C-172 with an <BR>> instructor.<BR>> Pick a
day when there is a good breeze, not gail!, and go for a flight.<BR>> Ask him
to fly up and down section lines, roads or whatever and demonstrate <BR>> the
winds effect on the airplane.<BR>> Ask him to demonstrate the "auto wind
correcting" ability of the airplane.<BR>> <G><BR>> You'll probably
have to ask him more than once after he gives you a couple <BR>> blank
stares.<BR>> Set the heading bug to the wind direction so that no matter what
the <BR>> airplane heading you can see from which relative direction the wind
is <BR>> blowing.<BR>> Just a suggestion...<BR>> JLK<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>>>From: "Ken Thompson" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:mrandmrst@comcast.net"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>mrandmrst@comcast.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weather Vane or
Crab<BR>>>Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:37:07 -0500<BR>>><BR>>>Hey
Ron,<BR>>><BR>>>Would I be correct in assuming your quote in
parenthesis should read,<BR>>>"During that flight, airplane "intended"
heading and track will not be the<BR>>>same", or are you pointing out that
a plane will "somewhat" crab, on it's<BR>>>own, in a
crosswind?<BR>>><BR>>>BTW: I like the white board and beer
idea;-)<BR>>><BR>>>Ken<BR>>><BR>>>----- Original Message
-----<BR>>>From: "Ron Lockhart" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>ronlock@comcast.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>>Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:16
AM<BR>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weather Vane or
Crab<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ><BR>>> > If a pilot is
flying to a specific point and points a trimmed airplane<BR>>> >
directly at that point, and there is wind<BR>>> > somwhat perpendicular
to the intended flight track over the ground the<BR>>> > airplane will
not get to that point.<BR>>> > The airplane will get to a point down
wind of the intended point. <BR>>>(During<BR>>> > that
flight, airplane heading and<BR>>> > track will not be the same.
There will be no wind hitting side of <BR>>>plane.<BR>>> >
A<BR>>> > yaw string on nose will be<BR>>> > straight down
fuse) I suppose we just lost a few folks
here....<BR>>> > (sigh)<BR>>><BR>>>All this would be a
bunch easier with a white board and beer. <VBG><BR>>>
><BR>>> > Later, Ron Lockhart<BR>>> ><BR>>>
><BR>>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>>> > From: "Ken
Thompson" <</FONT><A href="mailto:mrandmrst@comcast.net"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>mrandmrst@comcast.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>> > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 12:48
AM<BR>>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weather Vane<BR>>>
><BR>>> ><BR>>> >> Jim and all,<BR>>>
>><BR>>> >> Most of us realize the plane will do as you and
others have described, <BR>>>my<BR>>> >> only point in
questioning this is...is it called "weathervaning" while<BR>>> >
it's<BR>>> >> in the air, or is it called "wind induced yaw or
crab"?<BR>>> >><BR>>> >> Best to you in your
recovery.<BR>>> >><BR>>> >> Ken<BR>>>
>><BR>>> >> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>> >>
From: "James Oddino" <</FONT><A href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>joddino@socal.rr.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>> >> To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:alberji@charter.net"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>alberji@charter.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>;
"NSRCA Mailing List"<BR>>> >> <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>> >> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:14
PM<BR>>> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weather Vane<BR>>>
>><BR>>> >><BR>>> >> If it does, this
is my<BR>>> >> > definition of weathervaning.<BR>>>
>> ><BR>>> >> > I'm recovering from an emergency
appendectomy so I'm depending on all<BR>>> >> > you other guys to
go try a cross wind stall turn with no rudder<BR>>> >> > command
tomorrow and report on your results.<BR>>> >> ><BR>>>
>> > Best Regards, Jim O<BR>>> >><BR>>>
>><BR>>> >><BR>>> >>
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