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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bob – the correct answer on using
aileron during a radius, for the purpose of wind correction, is that if you are
NOT using it is a downgrade(able). It’s impossible in every
way to use only rudder through a radius actually keep the “wings-level”
to the intended flight path.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Maneuvers are to be wind-corrected and
flown in a single vertical plane – anything less is uncivilized </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The wings should be “level” at
every part of the curve/radius, and the only way to do that is by rolling the
plane, slightly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> W.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bob Richards<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 10, 2007
1:19 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Rudder</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>That is the best description I have read so far. Agree 100%.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Not long ago, I was talking with someone about wind correction and
mentioned that a very small amount of aileron should be used when pulling a
radius to a vertical line. He said if he ever saw me do it while he was
judging, he would downgrade. I told him if I do it right, he will never see it.
:-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Bob R.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>J N Hiller
<jnhiller@earthlink.net></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle23><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>This has been an interesting
discussion. The airplane dose not establish a crab angle on it’s own when
in the air. The airplane has a crab angle in horizontal flight and when it is
pulled vertical the wings will not be perpendicular to the flight path without
a roll correction. The need for the correction will be apparent and
automatically applied prior to finishing the radius. When a roll input is
applied with elevator it changes the heading in the direction of roll, (think
barrel roll) in this case into the wind as it finishes the radius. Most of the
time it will be excessive requiring a little opposite (down wind) rudder
correction unless the upwind wing was high entering the pull-up. Once the
airplane is leaning to one side in a vertical the lean will increase and is
especially noticeable as it slows. Some increase is needed to maintain wind
correction and the need for opposite rudder to maintain a vertical track
depends on how rapidly the airplane is decelerated. Most of the time I will try
to apply some down wind rudder with the roll correction at about 45 degrees,
before the need becomes visible as it is nearly always required. In short just
point the airplane in the direction you want it to go and stir the sticks as
necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><span class=EmailStyle23><font
size=2 color="#993366" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jim</span></font></span></st1:PersonName><span
class=EmailStyle23><font size=2 color="#993366" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> Hiller<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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