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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>It looks like, from Jim Hiller&#8217;s diagram, that it will not be
necessary to go behind the flight line. Currently the fields are marked with
flags and markings on the ground. This would be the same for this procedure.
Once you are facing the center marker it should be OK. We just have to try it.</span></font></p>

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<p><b><i><font size=4 color=navy face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:
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 face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";
 color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Marshall</span></font></i></b><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><font
 size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dennis<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 28, 2007
2:55 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>NSRCA Mailing
 List</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Mid-Air discussion</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=EmailStyle20><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Well everyone is
working on the logistics of and if this will work. They are looking at the
footprint of the flight paths crossing. One item everyone is overlooking is the
practicality of how this will work in regards to field orientation. Most club
fields are laid out straight. Most of us rely on this orientation to keep
square with the field and so do the judges. They use this as an orientation as
to the distance out. Then there are the classes that fly turnarounds out of the
box. How will they be able to do that and never go behind the flight lines?
I&#8217;m not saying this will not work. Just saying that it probably will not
work. </span></font></span></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=EmailStyle20><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dennis Cone</span></font></span></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jay Marshall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 28, 2007
11:37 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'NSRCA Mailing List'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Mid-Air discussion</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Obviously,
contestants will have to fly alternating lines &#8230;.</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:1.0in'><b><i><font size=4 color=navy
face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";
color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Jay Marshall</span></font></i></b><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Steven Maxwell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 28, 2007
2:26 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Mid-Air discussion</span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Mark I was
just going to say that nobody had mentioned the sun yet with the offset it
would put the sun in play both in morning and evening, according to field
orientation.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;Steve
Maxwell<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Mark Atwood
&lt;atwoodm@paragon-inc.com&gt;</span></i></b> wrote:</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;border:none;padding:0in'><font
size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>I doubt there are many flying sites that could accommodate that,
and it by necessity puts the sun in one of the two boxes...<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/28/07 2:13 PM, &quot;Bob Richards&quot; &lt;bob@toprudder.com&gt; wrote:</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><font size=1 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>In
looking at it, why not offset each line 30'. &nbsp;Total of 60' offset between
the two lines. This would put the box boundary on one side of each line at the
flight line. Would make the &quot;diamond of death&quot; much smaller in area.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
Bob R.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Mark Atwood
&lt;atwoodm@paragon-inc.com&gt;</span></i></b> wrote:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;border:none;padding:0in'><font
size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>AWESOME...That's EXACTLY what I was looking for. I'm pleasantly<br>
surprised...it does significantly reduce the overlapping footprint.<br>
<br>
Another &quot;benefit&quot; of this offset is that there will be FAR fewer
incidents<br>
where the planes will APPEAR to be in danger. Because of that, we might be<br>
able to react more aggressively regarding avoidence, since there will be a<br>
LOT fewer disruptions with reduced close calls. I.e. It won't feel like the<br>
boy that cried wolf so often.<br>
<br>
Also, with airplanes coming together from two distinct angles, the pilot and<br>
callers ability to see a collision course is MUCH higher as the perspective<br>
will allow a more accurate evaluation of depth.<br>
<br>
Interesting...I like it.<br>
<br>
-M</span></font></p>

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