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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi Colin,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>yes and no. If you get the header really tight, you
don't need any additional support. just realize it has to be TIGHT where it
screws into the head. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am using the header brace (the crazy japanese
one) and it works very well. But we have run it without one and it also works
just fine.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The one thing you have to realize with this mount
is that not if, but WHEN the engine kicks, you need a bit more clearance than
normal. As in, relieve your chin cowl lest you lose it. A small price to pay for
a really smooth mount.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't have anything else to compare it to so I
don't know if the O ring wears faster with this mount than with a stiffer one,
but I'd like that answer. Not that it matters, an O ring isn't exactly
expensive. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One thing to note is that my initial concern long
ago was the possibility of breaking headers etc. Well, not yet. After tons of
flight time, all of the headers are just fine.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just make sure you soft mount the muffler. The soft
mount that comes with it works just fine, and the spring type mount works pretty
well too. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My hat's off to Merle on this one, these things
just keep getting better. Rumor has it there are even more improvements and
experiments on the horizon!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PS Now I'd like to try an AR95 =)</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=cchariandy@yahoo.ca href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">colin
chariandy</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:18
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Mounting
Dimension - Hyde "Type C"</DIV>
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<DIV>Does anyone know where the limit lies for adding support to headers with
the newer mounts (AR60, AR70, AR80 etc)? </DIV>
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<DIV>If the short Hatori muffler and header is used with the AR80 do we
need some additional support?</DIV>
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<DIV>Colin.<BR><BR><B><I>Lance Van Nostrand <<A
href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com">patterndude@tx.rr.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>These type C's are really new (the Mk III's
anyway). I would assume Merle's dimensions have not really
changed. Here's some info I got from Merle directly that others may
find interesting. I sure did:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Lance,<BR><BR>I don't have any pictures. The new "C" MKIII
mount (isolator) looks the same as the earlier ones. Now I am using
rectangular 1/4" x 1/2" aluminum beams oriented/attached flat on the
mount. This makes the mount now usable with 18 pattern engines,
including the OS160 which is a wide crankcase engine.<BR><BR>Each beam has 6
drilled and tapped 6-32 holes - permitting a wide application range.
Beams positioned flat are even stronger. Overall length from firewall
to thrust washer is 6 3/8" for all YS, 3M, WEB, OS140, OS160, and OS120-200
4 strokes. Use of different beam bolt patterns even permits 6 1/4" FW
to TW for many engines!!<BR><BR>The "AR"(A)s (2 engine lug holes attachment)
are being discontinued and being replaced with all 4 engine lug attachment
aluminum beams. The newer mounts, that replace them, are being rated
by "CDR" (current drain reduction). The "CDR" range is from 60-95%,
and the mounts will be identified as "AR 60", "AR 70", "AR 80", "AR 85", "AR
90", and "AR 95", plus a very light weight MICRO series, that are "MR 80",
"MR 85", "MR 90", "MR 95".<BR><BR>The highest CDR numbers are the softest
mounts and require more airframe clearance for idle movement, plus softer
mounts requires exhaust attachment methods as we have discussed in the past,
or a method for the exhaust system to endure the "ride" or additional
movement - overall benefits of the very soft mounts are to the major high
value airborne equipment - such as servos, pots, gears, linkage, including
entire airframe.<BR><BR>All are for 4 engine lug hole attachment and
position the most popular engines at 6 3/8" or 6 1/4" from firewall to
thrust washer. <BR><BR>The "AR 80" is highly recommended by Mike Hester for
the "beastie DZs".<BR><BR>I will continue the firmer Type "C"
MKIIIs.<BR><BR>The CDR rating is an average for engines from 1.20 to 2.0
cuin. - the rating is approximate for a 160 size engine. The aluminum
beam mounts will no longer be engine specific - except for those that
incorporate the nose ring - the ARI series must be set up for a specific
engine due to varying front housing diameters and etc..<BR><BR>I'm sure this
will be confusing for a while - but with consistent overall length and wide
engine applications there will actually be considerably fewer mounts to
chose from - approximately 10 if all the CDRs are in the mix - vs 25
to 30 - Central carries the "AR 80", and may include the "AR 60"s and "AR
70"s. Also I have modified the firewall attachment bolt pattern to
permit use of either 3 or 4 attachment screws - the new bolt pattern
permitts the selection of either a "triangle" or "rectangle" pattern -
making the mounts interchange with other brands - plus permitting the use
with many engines makes the mounts fairly universal. The pattern guys
like to interchange engines, they can now also interchange some
mounts..<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>Merle<BR></DIV>
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<A title=rcaerobob@cox.net href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob
Pastorello</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 18, 2007
7:31 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Mounting
Dimension - Hyde "Type C"</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would anyone who is using this mount with an
OS 1.60 tell me the minimum firewall to spinner backplate dimension this
mount will permit? I have only so much nose....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net/">www.rcaerobats.net</A><BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A></FONT></DIV>
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