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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's also important to note that this was the older
style header, and an old one at that. After we put the gorilla grip on it, it
didn't come loose again. red silicon on the threads helps too. Just trial and
error.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:11
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Mounting
Dimension - Hyde "Type C"</DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have some brief
experience with the AR80 and was unable to keep the header tight to the motor
for more than 2 or 3 flights (without a header support). The other guys
can respond but I think you’ll find the need to use a header support with this
mount.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>colin chariandy<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:19
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List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Mounting Dimension - Hyde "Type
C"</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Does anyone know where the limit lies for adding
support to headers with the newer mounts (AR60, AR70, AR80 etc)?
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If the short Hatori muffler and header is used
with the AR80 do we need some additional
support?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Colin.<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Lance Van Nostrand
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">These type C's are really new
(the Mk III's anyway). I would assume Merle's dimensions have not
really changed. Here's some info I got from Merle directly that others
may find interesting. I sure did:</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi Lance,<BR><BR>I don't have any pictures.
The new "C" MKIII mount (isolator) looks the same as the earlier ones.
Now I am using rectangular 1/4" x 1/2" aluminum beams oriented/attached flat
on the mount. This makes the mount now usable with 18 pattern engines,
including the OS160 which is a wide crankcase engine.<BR><BR>Each beam has 6
drilled and tapped 6-32 holes - permitting a wide application range.
Beams positioned flat are even stronger. Overall length from firewall
to thrust washer is 6 3/8" for all YS, 3M, WEB, OS140, OS160, and OS120-200
4 strokes. Use of different beam bolt patterns even permits 6 1/4" FW
to TW for many engines!!<BR><BR>The "AR"(A)s (2 engine lug holes attachment)
are being discontinued and being replaced with all 4 engine lug attachment
aluminum beams. The newer mounts, that replace them, are being rated
by "CDR" (current drain reduction). The "CDR" range is from 60-95%,
and the mounts will be identified as "AR 60", "AR 70", "AR 80", "AR 85", "AR
90", and "AR 95", plus a very light weight MICRO series, that are "MR 80",
"MR 85", "MR 90", "MR 95".<BR><BR>The highest CDR numbers are the softest
mounts and require more airframe clearance for idle movement, plus softer
mounts requires exhaust attachment methods as we have discussed in the past,
or a method for the exhaust system to endure the "ride" or additional
movement - overall benefits of the very soft mounts are to the major high
value airborne equipment - such as servos, pots, gears, linkage, including
entire airframe.<BR><BR>All are for 4 engine lug hole attachment and
position the most popular engines at 6 3/8" or 6 1/4" from firewall to
thrust washer. <BR><BR>The "AR 80" is highly recommended by Mike Hester for
the "beastie DZs".<BR><BR>I will continue the firmer Type "C"
MKIIIs.<BR><BR>The CDR rating is an average for engines from 1.20 to 2.0
cuin. - the rating is approximate for a 160 size engine. The aluminum
beam mounts will no longer be engine specific - except for those that
incorporate the nose ring - the ARI series must be set up for a specific
engine due to varying front housing diameters and etc..<BR><BR>I'm sure this
will be confusing for a while - but with consistent overall length and wide
engine applications there will actually be considerably fewer mounts to
chose from - approximately 10 if all the CDRs are in the mix - vs 25
to 30 - Central carries the "AR 80", and may include the "AR 60"s and "AR
70"s. Also I have modified the firewall attachment bolt pattern to
permit use of either 3 or 4 attachment screws - the new bolt pattern
permitts the selection of either a "triangle" or "rectangle" pattern -
making the mounts interchange with other brands - plus permitting the use
with many engines makes the mounts fairly universal. The pattern guys
like to interchange engines, they can now also interchange some
mounts..<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>Merle<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Mounting Dimension - Hyde "Type
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Would anyone who is using this
mount with an OS 1.60 tell me the minimum firewall to spinner backplate
dimension this mount will permit? I have only so much
nose....</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net/">www.rcaerobats.net</A><BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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