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Lance,<br>
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I certainly appreciate the recent growth in the SW with the addition of
the El Paso contest. However, I still remeber when there were at least
5 contests in Colorado, two or three in Kansas and two in New Mexico.
There was also a contest in Montana(Billings) and Casper in Wyoming. <br>
Those days appear to be long gone and the few remaining contests
struggle to come up with 17 contestants. I believe the sole remaining
contest in Colorado had 11 contestants.<br>
BTW, the Roadrunner contest in Albuquerque will be putting on its 24th
edition next summer. <br>
<br>
Sorry you couldn't make it to Lubbock. Ed put on a great contest.<br>
John<br>
<br>
Lance Van Nostrand wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Even though your contests are small,
they are extraordinary feats. El Paso is new, Alb is new within the
last few years. Growth in the SW is apparent and excellent for the
population density. Keep going!!</font></div>
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought</div>
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At Lubbock last weekend there were 2 Sportsman, 3 Intermediate, 2
advanced, 5 Masters and 4 FAI as i recall.. All threeof the contests in
this area that I have attended have had about 17 contestants. El Paso
had a total of 13 in Spotsman and Intermediate.which is a good sign for
the future.<br>
John<br>
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Claude Weimer wrote:
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">How many
Masters Flyers are generally in the contests you fly in? We may have 4
or 5 Advanced and 10 to 15 Masters.<O:P></O:P></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>John
Gayer<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday,
August 27, 2007 10:53 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <ST1:PERSONNAME
w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought</span></font><font color="black"><span
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Western district 6. I live in <ST1:CITY
w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Albuquerque</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY> and
fly Advanced. Jeff Hill and I have competed against a total of one
other contestant in three contests(<ST1:CITY w:st="on">Albuquerque</ST1:CITY>,
<ST1:CITY w:st="on">El Paso</ST1:CITY> and <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">Lubbock</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>).<br>
John Gayer<br>
NSRCA 632<br>
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Claude Weimer wrote: <O:P></O:P></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>John
Gayer<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday,
August 27, 2007 10:17 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <ST1:PERSONNAME
w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Food for thought</span></font><O:P></O:P></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">This sounds good to me as a
compromise. >From what I've seen, we are currently having difficulty
getting enough competitiors for the classes we have now without adding
another class.<br>
John<br>
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<a href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</a>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Suggestion: Why we don't call
Expert = F3A and fly the P schedule only in local contests? The only
change we will need to make is that Expert = F3A becomes the last AMA
class. In other worlds, Master should not be the terminal AMA class.
Adding another class will add cost to the contest and probably will be
longer to run. <U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></span></font></p>
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have been thinking, it might be time to bring back the Expert class.
The reason I say this is because the Masters class is becoming rather
large and is going to grow in the coming years. The problems I see are
the difficulty judging at local contests. At the <ST1:CITY u2:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
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contest it took an hour and a half to judge Masters. Because Masters
is the largest class compared the Advanced and Intermediate and only
three FAI, it can be difficult to organize Judges for Masters. I’m not
singling out the <ST1:CITY u2:st="on"><ST1:CITY u6:st="on"><ST1:CITY
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contest was the same as most contests I have been to. If Masters was
split in two classes it would inc! rease t he available people to judge.<U4:P></U4:P></span></font><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Masters could be a little
easier and Expert could be harder. Expert could even be the last FAI P
schedule. The reason some don’t wish to move to FAI is the time to
learn two schedules. It looks like the Masters class is going to get
larger and I think it would be good to break it split it up.<U4:P></U4:P></span></font><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></p>
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