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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle23><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Golly. I didn’t thing this much response would be imitated about thumb
or pinch methods. Changing to Mode-1 would also be a challenge for this old
dog. My instructor flew both mode-1 & 2 and I often wished I had learned
mode-1. Mode-2 was by far the most popular so I went with it. I guess the time
to commit is when switching from a three-channel trainer to a four-channel
airplane. Most instructors in my area teach and fly right stick rudder on
3-channel airplanes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>It took me another two years to relearn to use the rudder. About that
time transmitters were available with aileron-rudder mixing but I didn’t have
one and learned to use left stick rudder flying a clipped wing Cub. Throttle /
Rudder only flight with touch and goes were a lot of fun. Wish I could learn to
rudder the right way all the time when flying pattern.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>I should also mention that sharper points on the top of the sticks help
as less down pressure is required to keep from slipping off. The more down
pressure that is applied the less feel I have for directional pressure and or
position. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Jim Hiller<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Adrien L Terrenoire<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:21
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Pattern is for elitist snobs?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>There is a
better way to avoid the Ail/Ele mixing...switch to mode 1!!!!</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I flew mode 2
for 7 years, then switched...Best move I ever made. Mode 1 is just a natural
for pattern, and pylon, but it will not work for helis.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Terry T.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On Sat, 25
Aug 2007 18:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Bob Richards <<a
href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">bob@toprudder.com</a>> writes:</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt'>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Jim,</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:44.35pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regarding
using thumbs and neckstraps/trays, I tried to get my son to use the pinch
method (thumb/forefinger) but he said he felt more comfortable with just
thumbs. He does use a neckstrap, though.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:44.35pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I do
know someone that won Masters class at the Nats a few years back that flew
with just thumbs and no strap/tray. WHAT A HEATHEN!!! :-)</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:44.35pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Bob R.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>J N Hiller
<jnhiller@earthlink.net></span></i></b> wrote:</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><span class=EmailStyle22><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><snip>I started as a ‘Thumb Flier’ and never
changed. I think most would agree that we have better control using the ‘Thumb
and Forefinger’ method with a neck strap or a transmitter tray. The problem
most of us thumb flyers have is leaning on the aileron a little when pulling or
pushing elevator. Even with extra stiff springs from Radio South I still
experience some mixing of control functions. I should probably change but it is
hard for old dogs to learn new tricks. As John recommended wings level is of
primary importance and we don’t want to disturb that inadvertently with
unwanted aileron input when applying elevator. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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