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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle26><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>I hear you. The presentation placement is supposed to be judged.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle26><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>If I lived 2500 miles closer to you guys I would fly Ballistic Pattern.
I still have two OS61-VF&#8217;s with M carburetors, rebuilt and back in the box and
one is still tight. I could scratch build another Arrow (#8). I still have the
plans and core cutting templates. It has been over 20 years since I have flown
an eight-point roll out of the box on both ends at 105 DB and I flew conservatively
keeping it under 14,000 on the ground. I now may have trouble seeing a half
reverse cuban eight turnaround a third of a mile away. It was fun but a bazillion
of those turnarounds got kind of old.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle26><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Jim Hiller<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>JShulman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 24, 2007 9:54
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]Sinking shipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I quit flying IMAC when
they got rid of the box and center poles... Where is the precision in a boxless
flight area?&nbsp;</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;Long low slow
rolls, flying over the runway... <a href="http://www.ballisticpattern.com/"
target="_blank">www.ballisticpattern.com</a> , with retracts and rear exhausts,
<a href="http://www.seniorpattern.com/" target="_blank">www.seniorpattern.com</a>
, fixed gear and no rear exhaust. In the box and most anything flies... <a
href="http://www.nsrca.org">www.nsrca.org</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;Regards,<br>
Jason<br>
www.jasonshulman.com<br>
www.shulmanaviation.com<br>
www.composite-arf.com</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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margin-left:1.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>J N Hiller<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 24, 2007
11:25 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]Sinking shipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><span class=EmailStyle24><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hmm, good idea, fly it where you can see it. Maybe
it&#8217;s time to revisit the 150-degree box proposal or eliminate it as IMAC has.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><span class=EmailStyle24><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Pattern has never been a spectator sport, too boring
and repetitious. All the airplanes look the same. The casual observer has no
idea what we are attempting to do. It helps to get out of our chairs and walk
around and talk to people. Make it easy for them to ask questions. Most will
listen with interest.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><span class=EmailStyle24><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim Hiller<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><span class=EmailStyle24><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Del K. Rykert<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 24, 2007 7:51
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]Sinking shipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>What got
me hooked was watching a local practice in the olden days do a slow roll 5 foot
off the deck for 6 secs. Said to self...&nbsp; Hmm&nbsp; that looks impressive,
Wonder if I could learn to do that. This was done right over the middle of the
runway though. Those days are long gone. Sorry to say but the way we fly today
wouldn't have planted the hook for me. I flew full scale at the time and didn't
see any interest until seeing something I couldn't do with my private ship. Had
been flying R/C for at least 8 years at that time.</span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font><em><i><font
size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:maroon'> Del</span></font></i></em><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:maroon'>----- Original</span></font></i></em><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>
Message ----- </span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
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<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:mjfrederick@cox.net" title="mjfrederick@cox.net">Matthew Frederick</a>
</span></font></div>

<font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]></span></font><font
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Thursday, August 23,
2007 7:58 PM</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Sinking shipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>If it
wasn't for my dad, I never would have thought of flying pattern... to him, it
was the only option!</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Original Message ----- </span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
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<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com" title="mups1953@yahoo.com">mike mueller</a> </span></font></div>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Thursday, August 23,
2007 9:32 AM</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Sinking shipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;Pattern
breeds pattern!!!! I like that. And parents of pattern flyers breed
new&nbsp;pattern flyers. How many in pattern today were introduced to RC and
pattern by a father? I was. Mike<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Mike Hester &lt;<a
href="mailto:kerlock@comcast.net">kerlock@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span></i></b>
wrote: </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Been
saying this forever, but&nbsp;sometimes it&nbsp;falls on deaf ears........
&quot;pattern breeds pattern&quot;.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>if
there are no pattern flyers at your club, then fly pattern. No, most won't be
interested at first, but give them time....ONE will decide to give it a shot.
may take a few months, may take a few years. But once you get 2, it turns into
4...then 8....etc. The key is being there and flying it and NEVER speaking
badly about it. you have to &quot;sell&quot; the idea that it's fun,
challenging, and they can DO IT.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Let's
face it, in a club with 100 members, MAYBE 5 will ever be interested in
pursuing pattern. The time, money, discipline, etc that it takes to actively
compete is a level of participation and dedication that most people do not
have, and that's not&nbsp;a bad thing....toy planes. But we have to make sure
we reach those 5 and don't do anything stupid to burn them before they get
hooked. </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Jack is
a monster. He is going to be TOUGH. He was flying a 60-90 sized plane and
whipping 2 meters on a national level. Your average guy is going to see that
and say &quot;I could never do that&quot;. But 5% are going to say &quot;I WANT
to do that&quot;. Find em.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-Mike</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----
Original Message ----- </span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>

<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:wilsorc@gmail.com" title="wilsorc@gmail.com">Bob Wilson</a> </span></font></div>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Thursday, August 23,
2007 9:40 AM</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Insights from
a long time RC flyer who has just joined NSRCA.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Most RC
pilots don't understand pattern and don't want to look bad.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>It's easy to flippity-flop all over the
sky, but disciplined flying is tough.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>No one has ever required them to fly a straight line
parallel to the runway.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Anything
other than a loop or roll is alien.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>Humpty's, Top-Hats, Figure M, Cobra&#8230;you might as well talk Swahili.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>If NSRCA is going to address falling
membership they need to educate the RC community at the ground level. <span
style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>At the Peoria RC Modelers we are
trying hard to promote pattern.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;
</span>Most exciting, however, is a young man from China (Jack Li) who joined
our club.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Jack is 16 and
practiced pattern in China.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>This
year he competed in &quot;Intermediate&quot; at Hoffman Estates and won first
place.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>His subsequent visit
to the NATS resulted in an Intermediate 2<sup>nd</sup> place.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Next year he will be competing at the
&quot;Masters&quot; level.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>Our
club is taking a new look at Pattern and beginning to wake up.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>A recent club &quot;Mini Pattern&quot;
event had 10 competitors.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;
</span>Hopefully, we will build on this and get more people into serious
competition, but we really feel that education and emphasis on the Sportsman
sequence is the key to bringing in new blood. </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Bob Wilson</span></font><font
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Peoria RC
Modelers</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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