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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It appears
that turnaround began with “Expert Turnaround” (36 K, 17 maneuver) in the 1990/91rule
book as the top class, replacing the previous 450 maximum K / build your own Masters
schedule. Masters remained non-turnaround and was down graded to fit between
Advanced and Expert Turnaround. The 1992/93 rule book restored the “Masters”
name to the top class with a full 66 K 23 maneuver schedule and Expert
Turnaround was dropped. All classes went turnaround in this rule cycle also.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim Hiller<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Fuqua<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 23, 2007
6:52 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'NSRCA Mailing List'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
[Fwd: Proposal]</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If my memory serves, in
87 we were transitioning to turnaround. Masters was the old AMA style and
Expert was Turnaround. We had 6 classes with 2 AMA classes being a
turnaround style.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>John</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>george w. kennie<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 23, 2007
8:46 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
[Fwd: Proposal]</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>That ' 87 listing
was interesting to me in light of the class number reversal seen by the huge
Sportsman class relative the Expert numbers. There must be a lesson in there
somewhere. Is the reversal the result of forced advancement???</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I think there were
a total of 141 pilots and did that exclude FAI ??? Where did we go wrong, or
did we even ???????</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Interesting stuff
!!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>G.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original
Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>
<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net"
title="jgghome@comcast.net">John Gayer</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday,
August 23, 2007 5:33 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] [Fwd: Proposal]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The option system I
proposed addresses this. The only requirement when you point out is that you <u>try
</u>the next class. This could be for a year, two contests, whatever we decide
to propose. If it's too intense/difficult/time consuming in the next
class, drop back. I find it unlikely that this would be abused and peer
pressure should take care of any that are purely camped for trophies.<br>
I see absolutely no reason not to include Masters in this advancement/option
scheme. Come on guys, try F3A, you might actually like it.<br>
<br>
John<br>
<br>
Mark Atwood wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I think this really only speaks to not being forced to move up.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Period.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Del is making the point that it has to stay "fun" for more than just the top<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>guys.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>We have a number in our district that have "Fun" being a casual<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>competitor...I'll bet most districts do. They ALL fly masters.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Why?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Because they can camp there.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>They are serious enough, or have time enough,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>or talent enough to have fun at that level.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Most can win a round here and<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>there, some win regularly, some don't , all have fun.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The problem is that we don't have the same group for Advanced.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Those that<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>have a little less time, a little less talent, etc.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>They have fun until<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>they point out...and then someone pushes them to Masters where they really<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>don't belong and they quit.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Can't move back, and don't have fun bringing up<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the bottom ALWAYS in masters.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Same is true of Intemediate. There are those that would stay there happily<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>until pattern retirement.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>They'd win some, lose some, watch others pass<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>them by, but at no time are they comfortable flying advanced.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Etc etc etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>We've beat this to death.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Unfortunately someone out there is scared of the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>almight "Sandbagger" that's going to suck up allll the valuable hardware in<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>a lower class because they suck to much to beat them.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>THAT person is the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>one we should not be catering too...<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On 8/23/07 4:23 PM, <a
href="mailto:seefo@san.rr.com">"seefo@san.rr.com"</a> <a
href="mailto:seefo@san.rr.com"><seefo@san.rr.com></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>What exactly is a casual competitor?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I'm being serious here. Someone who doesn't put in the time necessary<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>to be at their best cannot expect to win contests, and you certainly<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>cannot change the sport so these people CAN win. Most of us have other<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>things to do that take up our time. That's life. I can't practice every<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>day, but at the same time, I don't expect Quique, Andrew, or Jason, or<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>anyone else to make concessions to me because they can and do put in<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>A person who cannot devote the time necessary to be at the top of their<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>game, should have enough character and intelligence to accept that<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>fact. At that point they have 3 choices.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>1) Compete and HAVE FUN at the level they can currently.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>2) Devote more time and energy to the competition and get better.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>3) Move on to something else.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>People need to remember that competition is, and SHOULD BE unforgiving<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>of excuses.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: "Del K. Rykert" <a
href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com"><drykert2@rochester.rr.com></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Date: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:38 pm<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] [Fwd: Proposal]<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: NSRCA Mailing List <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></div>
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color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>These are all great but, I see nothing changing to stop driving<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>away the casual competitor. If the organization and sport wants to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>truly grow that area is long overdue. We need their numbers and<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>help at fielding contests.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
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