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Rex, Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I agree we would have to
consider any side effects before making any changes<br>
<br>
I would like to make a few comments. <br>
I'm very glad to hear you have a mentoring system in place in district
8. It doesn't seem to be currently in place here in western district 6
although it used to be. It would be good to have all districts
participating in the same way. Perhaps you could explain exactly how it
works up there?<br>
<br>
I'm getting the impression that most of the membership agrees with you
on having two destination classes. From the bottom looking up, it
appears that there are only two advancement classes(intermediate and
advanced) before you have to go out and compete against sponsored
flyers who are among the best flyers in the world. This would be either
Masters or F3A. Adding another class doesn't seem to be the answer
considering current participation levels.I believe the crisis point in
the system is the move up from advanced but we would have to have a
good database history to prove such a point. In any case, from the
feedback I have received, it appears very unlikely that this proposal
will ever be accepted. However, one point in my proposal is an option
year. With this provision, any pilot that finds himself over his head
in the next class, can go back a class at the end of the year. This
should help anyone who jumped too early and also force everyone to at
least try the next class before abandonning the effort, considering the
investment in time and money to be excessive in the next class. I
would like to see this implemented even if the advancement from masters
to F3A is rejected.<br>
<br>
John<br>
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Rex LESHER wrote:
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<div>John</div>
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<div>I'll jump right in and comment on what you propose.... </div>
<div> </div>
<div><strong>Revive the practice of assigning mentors to Sportsman
and Intermediate flyers</strong></div>
<div> </div>
<div>We have been doing this all along, here in District 8. I would </div>
<div>hope that this is happening in all districts. It's the best
thing</div>
<div>we can do as a group, to help the newer/inexperienced pilots...</div>
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<div><strong>Create a National Database for Pattern</strong></div>
<div> </div>
<div>This is an interesting idea... Not sure that I would really
keep track</div>
<div>of where I stand, but I'm sure quite a few pilots would be
interested</div>
<div>in this. The only concern would be getting someone to take
care of</div>
<div>this... I do like the idea of having to be part of the NSRCA
to see it.</div>
<div>That would create leverage towards joining... You are correct
in the </div>
<div>fact that a lot of different data could be generated from
this....</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div><strong>Redirect the focus to our international team competition
through modification of the advancement system</strong></div>
<div> </div>
<div>I don't care for the idea that Masters gets thrown into the
advancement program.</div>
<div>There are too many variables that pertain to the ability for all
to fly FAI.</div>
<div>I like the idea of Masters being a destination class and the
ability to move back </div>
<div>and forth between any AMA class and FAI at will...</div>
<div>Here in the NW, I could see where it would be necessary to
switch a few pilots back and forth</div>
<div>between Masters and FAI just to facilitate the ability to run a
contest with enough judges...</div>
<div>Also, if forcing an advancement of Masters pilots to FAI is a
way of taking care of the "Bulge" of </div>
<div>pilots flying in that class, all it would really do is create a
"Bulge" in FAI. Or, pilots that have </div>
<div>pointed out in Masters would quit....</div>
<div>The idea that there are two "destination" classes is appealing
as it allows room at the top for expansion without</div>
<div>forcing anyone UP or OUT.... there's no other way to go!</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Most of all, I'd like to take a moment and thank you for taking
the time to share your ideas, and </div>
<div>make them available for comment. I hope that you don't feel
that I am attacking you or your</div>
<div>ideas in any way... I really like the fact that you thought
about what you wanted to say and </div>
<div>presented them in a fashion as to show your intentions....</div>
<div>None of this is easy, as changing one thing can have adverse
effects on other aspects if not</div>
<div>carefully thought through. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Rex Lesher</div>
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I'd like to present three proposals that might appeal to a few if not
the many....<br>
Modified from the original proposal . Apparently not many saw it. The
first one has been added <br>
Comments?<br>
John<br>
NSRCA 632<br>
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<b>Revive the practice of assigning mentors to Sportsman and
Intermediate flyers<br>
<br>
</b>At contests, assign an experienced competitor to mentor, call
and advise the Sportsman/ Intermediate flyers. This is nothing new, but
should be a part of every contest. We should try to provide a
connection that will last past the contest.<br>
As I see it, there are four issues that drasticaly affect the ability
of these flyers to compete effectively: aircraft trimming, execessive
throws, wings level and centering(also known as flying the airplane,
not letting the airplane fly you).<br>
These flyers have shown the initiative to come out and compete. We owe
them (and ourselves) all the help we can throw at them. <br>
<br>
<br>
<b>Create a National Database for Pattern<br>
</b><br>
The database must contain the raw scores of all flights for <u>all</u>
competitors by class. The only thing normalized scores are good for is
finding the right finish order for each class at a contest. Raw scores
are much better for comparing results even at a contest. For example I
finish round one with a 930 and round two with a 985, both to
competitor A. Now did I fly a lot better in round two(I thought I did)
or did competitor A flop a stall turn in the figure M in round 2.<br>
Anyway once you have the raw scores by competitor and class, you can do
the following:<br>
<ol>
<li>Create a National Ranking for each class based on average
points per maneuver. Once this is in place and on line, we will have a
reason for pattern competitors to join NSRCA. you can't tell me that
there wouldn't be a lot of interest in seeing who is hot around the
country and how you stack up against the competition. I know, the
judging isn't always equal but that's always been true and we have to
live with it. <br>
</li>
<li>The data available on each competitor would include contests
entered, placing, advance points earned. The districts could extract
whatever data is required to ascertain the district champions. We could
archive previous years as well. </li>
<li>Other ways to specify advancement in class become available,
percentage of average FAI score, even eventually moving the 10
top-rated pilots up a class. Possibilities are endless when you have
the data.<br>
</li>
</ol>
Since the database would only be open to NSRCA members, if you want to
track your National standing, joining NSRCA would be a must. If you
want to see what the guy nobody heard of that just rolled in from out
of district has accomplished, look him up. We've been looking for
reasons to join NSRCA, I feel this is one that could be big and would
be worth some investment in time and money. I would be willing to help
with such a project although I don't feel like I could take it on by
myself.<br>
<br>
<b>Redirect the focus to our international team competition through
modification of the advancement system<br>
<br>
</b>
<ol>
<li>Modify the advancement process to be consistent through all
classes from Sportsman through to F3A. See section two for possible
advancement criteria </li>
<li>Advancement can be forced by the advancement criteria(see
section 2) or voluntary.<br>
</li>
<li>The first year in a new and higher class is an option year.
At the end of the option year you can downselect one class for any
reason. </li>
</ol>
This has the advantage of being able to try out the higher class for a
year without committing your entire pattern career. If you discover
that the next class is beyond your means( time, money or talent) then
you option down the following year. If you absolutely refuse to fly
your new class, then perhaps you could use the time and money to
reintroduce your self to your wife, girlfriend, etc. If you need a goal
for the year, focus on making your rudder commands instinctive, learn
to fly a helicopter, learn to fly rolling circles. You would probably
come back a better pattern flyer than when you left.<br>
<br>
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