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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p><b><i><font size=4 color=navy face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><font
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size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ron Van Putte<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 22, 2007
11:25 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
[Fwd: Proposal]</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'd like to comment on John's three proposals: I
think they all have merit. In a perfect world I'd support them all. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>As a CD, I always look to what a proposal is going to
do to my workload, so let me look at them as a CD.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>#1 The CD would have to recruit several
experienced competitors to conduct the advising of Sportsman/Intermediate
pilots because he would be too busy to do it.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>#2 The CD would either have to enter all the
scores on every flight of every competitor into a national database, or recruit
someone to do it. Some editing of scores would be required. e.g:
The flight score of a competitor whose airplane flames out midway through a
flight does not accurately reflect the quality of his flying.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>#3 The CD would either have to check all
competitors' advancement scores to make sure they were in the correct class or
recruit someone to do it. After the contest, the CD would have to enter
all the earned advancement points for all competitors into the national
database or recruit someone to do it.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>My experience with many CDs is that #1 would probably
get done by most of them. #2 might get done by about half the CDs, UNLESS
it was made an AMA requirement and there was a "hammer" attached to
"punish" CDs who didn't comply. Would such a requirement cause
some to decide that being a CD was too much trouble? Maybe. #3
would probably have about the same success rate as #2.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Even worthy proposals have downsides and these are
what I see as a CD and a realist regarding organizations whose members are
volunteers.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Aug 22, 2007, at 7:12 PM, John Gayer wrote:</span></font></p>
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I'd like to present three proposals that might appeal to a few if not the
many....<br>
Modified from the original proposal . Apparently not many saw it. The first one
has been added <br>
Comments?<br>
John<br>
NSRCA 632<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Revive the practice of assigning mentors to
Sportsman and Intermediate flyers<br>
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</span></b>At contests, assign an experienced competitor to mentor, call and
advise the Sportsman/ Intermediate flyers. This is nothing new, but should be a
part of every contest. We should try to provide a connection that will last
past the contest.<br>
As I see it, there are four issues that drasticaly affect the ability of these
flyers to compete effectively: aircraft trimming, execessive throws, wings
level and centering(also known as flying the airplane, not letting the airplane
fly you).<br>
These flyers have shown the initiative to come out and compete. We owe them
(and ourselves) all the help we can throw at them. <br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Create a National Database for Pattern<br>
</span></b><br>
The database must contain the raw scores of all flights for <u>all</u>
competitors by class. The only thing normalized scores are good for is finding
the right finish order for each class at a contest. Raw scores are much
better for comparing results even at a contest. For example I finish round one
with a 930 and round two with a 985, both to competitor A. Now did I fly a lot
better in round two(I thought I did) or did competitor A flop a stall
turn in the figure M in round 2.<br>
Anyway once you have the raw scores by competitor and class, you can do the
following:</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>1.<font size=1
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</span></font></span></font>Create a National Ranking for each class based on
average points per maneuver. Once this is in place and on line, we will have a
reason for pattern competitors to join NSRCA. you can't tell me that there
wouldn't be a lot of interest in seeing who is hot around the country and how
you stack up against the competition. I know, the judging isn't always equal
but that's always been true and we have to live with it. </p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2.<font size=1
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</span></font></span></font>The data available on each competitor would include
contests entered, placing, advance points earned. The districts could extract
whatever data is required to ascertain the district champions. We could archive
previous years as well.</p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>3.<font size=1
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</span></font></span></font>Other ways to specify advancement in class become
available, percentage of average FAI score, even eventually moving the 10
top-rated pilots up a class. Possibilities are endless when you have the data.</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Since
the database would only be open to NSRCA members, if you want to track your
National standing, joining NSRCA would be a must. If you want to see what the
guy nobody heard of that just rolled in from out of district has accomplished,
look him up. We've been looking for reasons to join NSRCA, I feel this is
one that could be big and would be worth some investment in time and money. I
would be willing to help with such a project although I don't feel like I could
take it on by myself.<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Redirect the focus to our international team
competition through modification of the advancement system</span></b></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>1.<font size=1
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</span></font></span></font>Modify the advancement process to be consistent
through all classes from Sportsman through to F3A. See section two for possible
advancement criteria</p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2.<font size=1
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</span></font></span></font>Advancement can be forced by the advancement
criteria(see section 2) or voluntary.</p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>3.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font>The first year in a new and higher class is an
option year. At the end of the option year you can downselect one class for any
reason.</p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>This
has the advantage of being able to try out the higher class for a year without
committing your entire pattern career. If you discover that the next class is
beyond your means( time, money or talent) then you option down the following
year. If you absolutely refuse to fly your new class, then perhaps you could
use the time and money to reintroduce your self to your wife, girlfriend, etc.
If you need a goal for the year, focus on making your rudder commands
instinctive, learn to fly a helicopter, learn to fly rolling circles. You would
probably come back a better pattern flyer than when you left.<br>
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