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The option system I proposed addresses this. The only requirement when
you point out is that you <u>try </u>the next class. This could be
for a year, two contests, whatever we decide to propose. If it's too
intense/difficult/time consuming in the next class, drop back. I find
it unlikely that this would be abused and peer pressure should take
care of any that are purely camped for trophies.<br>
I see absolutely no reason not to include Masters in this
advancement/option scheme. Come on guys, try F3A, you might actually
like it.<br>
<br>
John<br>
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<pre wrap="">I think this really only speaks to not being forced to move up. Period.
Del is making the point that it has to stay "fun" for more than just the top
guys.
We have a number in our district that have "Fun" being a casual
competitor...I'll bet most districts do. They ALL fly masters. Why?
Because they can camp there. They are serious enough, or have time enough,
or talent enough to have fun at that level. Most can win a round here and
there, some win regularly, some don't , all have fun.
The problem is that we don't have the same group for Advanced. Those that
have a little less time, a little less talent, etc. They have fun until
they point out...and then someone pushes them to Masters where they really
don't belong and they quit. Can't move back, and don't have fun bringing up
the bottom ALWAYS in masters.
Same is true of Intemediate. There are those that would stay there happily
until pattern retirement. They'd win some, lose some, watch others pass
them by, but at no time are they comfortable flying advanced. Etc etc etc.
We've beat this to death. Unfortunately someone out there is scared of the
almight "Sandbagger" that's going to suck up allll the valuable hardware in
a lower class because they suck to much to beat them. THAT person is the
one we should not be catering too...
-Mark
On 8/23/07 4:23 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:seefo@san.rr.com">"seefo@san.rr.com"</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:seefo@san.rr.com"><seefo@san.rr.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">What exactly is a casual competitor?
I'm being serious here. Someone who doesn't put in the time necessary
to be at their best cannot expect to win contests, and you certainly
cannot change the sport so these people CAN win. Most of us have other
things to do that take up our time. That's life. I can't practice every
day, but at the same time, I don't expect Quique, Andrew, or Jason, or
anyone else to make concessions to me because they can and do put in
the time.
A person who cannot devote the time necessary to be at the top of their
game, should have enough character and intelligence to accept that
fact. At that point they have 3 choices.
1) Compete and HAVE FUN at the level they can currently.
2) Devote more time and energy to the competition and get better.
3) Move on to something else.
People need to remember that competition is, and SHOULD BE unforgiving
of excuses.
-Doug
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From: "Del K. Rykert" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com"><drykert2@rochester.rr.com></a>
Date: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:38 pm
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] [Fwd: Proposal]
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<pre wrap="">These are all great but, I see nothing changing to stop driving
away the casual competitor. If the organization and sport wants to
truly grow that area is long overdue. We need their numbers and
help at fielding contests.
Del
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