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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Earl makes some good points, but you need
to also realize that this same syndrome is occurring with many other
sports/pastimes as well. The idea of belonging to an organization does
not that the draw that it once did. AMA has similar issues, but so does
other sports/hobbies. The fact that more people fly R/C now than ever
before, yet AMA is loosing about 2% per year is a sobering fact.
Competition events, as well as non-competition event sanctions have been in a
decline over the past several years. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>All of this points to a change in how we
as Americans are looking at our free time and how we can best spend it.
This change affects Pattern as well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Another aspect is that what is offered to the membership does not have the same
impact as what it used to have. Here again, AMA is feeling this same
problem as well. Publications are going away, toward online subscriptions
and the ever-popular discussion boards. Lets face it, if you have a
question, you don’t go back through issues of K-Factor to find them, you
put it out to the discussion list! That way you get today’s
info. Sure, the K-Factor still has value and I enjoy reading it
still. But the future is in on-line real-time discussions and information.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There will always be competition
flying. We need to do all the things that have been suggested by this
list! Primers are effective and bring in people. Having a pattern
intro-day at you club helps. You will never bring in large numbers, but
the one-at-a-time approach does work. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Then again, ask yourself, what would
happen if next year all the pattern contests you went to had 100 entries?
How about 300 at the NATS?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Earl Haury<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 22, 2007
11:47 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]SinkingshipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Jim</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>You make several good points. It would be interesting to
look for correlations between pattern activity nationally (# contests /
participation) and NSRCA membership. I suspect this might show pattern is
healthier than NSRCA membership indicates - at least basis my observations of
pattern participation / new competitors in my area (D6). If that's the case -
then there's likely a correlation between NSRCA membership and some NSRCA
activity. Dues increases might be the first thing to check, but not the only.
The advent of online information likely has had an impact on the thirst for the
K-Factor, for example. Like you say - the NSRCA provides the Nats and the
K-Factor, and I would add this forum, that provide obvious value. (The website
is a very strong and useful tool that is likely underutilized by the
membership.) But have the dues necessary to support the organization reached a
point where many feel the value doesn't meet the cost? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>So - I'm suggesting that we better understand the issues
affecting the "problem". Has membership dropped each time the dues
raise? Has membership fluctuated with the size / reliability of the K-Factor? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Has membership tracked with pattern activity? There are
probably others - some of which may not be easy to examine. Anyone passionate
enough about this to dig through the data and better define cause and effect?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Earl</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:jim.woodward@baesystems.com" title="jim.woodward@baesystems.com">Woodward,
Jim</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday, August
22, 2007 10:16 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] SinkingshipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi <ST1:PLACE u5:st="on"><ST1:STATE u5:st="on"><st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Del</ST1:STATE></ST1:PLACE></st1:place></st1:State>,<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>I look at it like this –
nobody researches organizational leadership, determines which are good or bad,
then starts a sport or hobby because the orchestrating organization is to their
liking. If someone wanted to bowl they would not intuitively look to the
Professional Bowlers Association, then go to the local alley and take a
lesson. If a newcomer to pattern has a negative opinion of the NSRCA then
it is 99.9% certain that a current or former NSRCA member put that thought in
their head. I also do not believe that people “quit” or drop
out of pattern because of the NSRCA. The NSRCA does not build your planes,
tune your motor, pack your ice-chest, or get your pattern-buddy motivated to go
to the next contest with you – that is all “people” stuff and
we are the people. However the NSRCA does facilitate a huge number of
things that unite our sport across the country – all of which are totally
unknown to newcomers probably and are not a big deal to them. Like the
NSRCA or not – who cares??? The real deal should be whether or not
you enjoy flying your pattern plane in competitions – and if so go and
compete…<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>I happen to think that if you
just think about growing pattern, then NSRCA growth will follow to a large
percentage. You (read as you, I, and others) grow the sport by being
around the other R/C guys in your area and getting to know them one on
one. Interest in our part of the sport will be there or it
won’t. If it is, then try to cultivate it. We can’t
drag people into this, but we can offer insight, help, and the
“rewards” of flying precision aerobatics. There is also a
percentage of current pilots that will cross-over from IMAC or Jets if they are
interested, but need a nudge in this direction. Its hard for current
R/C’ers to make the jump if they have never flown a pattern plane or at
least seen some pattern videos. Thank goodness for the D4 website which is
now posting some of the 2007 Nationals flight videos – THANK YOU
D4! I have enjoyed watching them. <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>If we want the sport to grow as
well as the NSRCA then we need to get out and shake some hands and loan
airplanes or buddy cord up. I support the NSRCA 100% but the NSRCA does
not give me anything that I truly enjoy from the hobby (accept for the
Nationals and K-Factor) – this is provided by the friends I’ve made
and my own pursuit of a perfect sequence. <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>Thanks,<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><ST1:PERSONNAME u5:st="on"><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim</ST1:PERSONNAME>
w.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>twtaylor<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 22, 2007
11:16 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<ST1:PERSONNAME u5:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Sinking shipSyndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>So we agree there’s a
problem. How do we fix it? Lets throw some idea’s out there.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>Pattern primers are/have been
successful in the past maybe we need more?<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>Personally my club will not
allow me to have any type contest at our field much less a Pattern contest.
When I brought it up I was soundly beat around the head and shoulders about the
where we fly our patterns and the club felt it would upset the neighbors. IMHO
my club is a bunch of Sunday fliers that don’t want to put forth the
effort. We do have some new blood coming in that might change the way our club
operates. It will take a major change in club officers to do it. Only problem
is we have a self imposed 400’ ceiling. <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Del K. Rykert<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><O:P></O:P>I suspect is mostly because of
lack of support or don't have the resources/time or health to commit to
office. What I haven't seen is a change in the numbers no matter how positive
the attitudes are of the officers and leaders. A few years ago when I tried to
bring up the perception of a known problem in my mind I was told to be quiet as
we are making changes and things will improve. That was years ago..
How many more years will it take? I still see a continuing decline with
some insisting it is only a local thing thinking as their area/district is
growing so therefore no problem.</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>If I don't see a change to the positive I have to assume the
efforts on everyone's part hasn't truly addressed the issues. I fully realize
all about "</span></font><em><i><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>assuming</span></font></i></em><font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>". So if the true goal is to draw new blood and grow the
ranks then the efforts have to be shifted to focus the few resources the
organization does have to focus more efforts to draw the new blood. If the
advertisers were truly onboard they would be there year after year.. Not
need further enticements to return to placing an ad. </span></font><O:P></O:P><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>None of my comments are
meant to infer all the efforts of all parties hasn't been commendable in their
efforts to address the problem. The results are what I still
feel need to be addressed. Survey the potential wannabes. If no wannabe
exist then we are left with what we have.</span></font></u><O:P></O:P><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><O:P></O:P><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><em><i><font
size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:maroon'> <ST1:PLACE u5:st="on"><ST1:STATE u5:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Del</ST1:STATE></ST1:PLACE></st1:place></st1:State> </span></font></i></em><O:P></O:P><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>----- Original Message ----- <O:P></O:P></span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:patternrules@yahoo.com" title="patternrules@yahoo.com">Steven Maxwell</a>
<O:P></O:P></span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <O:P></O:P></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:40 AM<O:P></O:P></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome?
Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'<O:P></O:P></span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><O:P></O:P> Have to agree with John
and Mike on this, this adminstation has only been in office a few months and
nothing happens over night.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> The other thing I always see is
people with ideas but never see there name on a ballet if people are really
want to make a difference and they have all the better ways why do we see
unopposed ballets.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> Steve Maxwell<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>mike mueller
<mups1953@yahoo.com></span></i></b> wrote:<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> Very well stated JLK. I have been in
pattern for a very longtime and I can tell you that the leaders we have
right now are taking us in a positive direction. I have a lot of faith in them.
It will take some patience but I think there are a lot of positive things
in place.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> This forum is an open discussion of
ideas and thoughts some are agreeable some are not. Either way its it important
that everyone be heard. If there's a new concept that has merit then in time
the group will adopt it.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> The biggest problem that I see with
our sport is the lack of younger people getting in. We need new blood
ASAP. Mike<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>John Konneker <jlkonn@hotmail.com></span></i></b>
wrote:<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>If I may.<br>
As a lot of you know I am the ad manager for the K-Factor.<br>
It is my goal to bring enough advertisers on board to make the K-Factor self <br>
supporting.<br>
I believe that goal is achievable.<br>
I just prepared the invoicing for the July issue and total billings, month <br>
to month, are increasing.<br>
We have a great bunch of advertisers already that have been very supportive <br>
of the NSRCA.<br>
Please support them whenever you can.<br>
I contact potential advertisers all the time.<br>
If you have any you'd like to suggest please let me know.<br>
If you have personal contact with any and think you can get them interested, <br>
by all means talk to them.<br>
Ron Davies is doing a great job as treasurer and reports on the NSRCA <br>
finances every month in his K-Factor column.<br>
Through these reports you can see it's not just members dues that generate <br>
the operating income of the NSRCA.<br>
As an aside I flew the Nats this year.<br>
Derek invited me to the NSRCA board meeting held on Tuesday night.<br>
I had been out of RC since the late '80s and only started pattern again last <br>
year.<br>
I can't tell you how impressed I was with the officers.<br>
Everyone, without exception, has the advancement of pattern in their hearts.<br>
Everyone, without exception, was positive in their attitude.<br>
There were no hidden agendas.<br>
No "us" vs "them".<br>
>From Derek on down we have a great bunch!<br>
JLK<br>
<br>
<br>
>From: "Del K. Rykert" <br>
<DRYKERT2@ROCHESTER.RR.COM>>Reply-To: <ST1:PERSONNAME u5:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME> <br>
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG>>To: "<ST1:PERSONNAME u5:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME>" <br>
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG>>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship
Syndrome? Please <br>
>review'NSRCAMembers'<br>
>Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:51:54 -0400<br>
><br>
>I truly hear you message loud and clear John. Do you have any further <br>
>suggestions, as many don't want to look at some of the changes that have <br>
>been proposed? I know it has been discussed on the list to degree of <br>
>making some just deleting post without even reading them. Either they don't
<br>
>care or don't want to hear it. Hate to be so sinister to assume they want <br>
>to see the NSRCA fail. <TIC>I hope.<br>
><br>
> <ST1:PLACE u5:st="on"><ST1:STATE u5:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Del</ST1:STATE></ST1:PLACE></st1:place></st1:State><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: John Gayer<br>
> To: <ST1:PERSONNAME u5:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:51 PM<br>
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Please review 'NSRCAMembers'<br>
><br>
><br>
> The attached Chart is based on numbers on the NSRCA website and the <br>
>treasurer's report in the latest K-Factor. If the membership continues to <br>
>reject any thoughts or proposals that might help, I see this downward slide
<br>
> continuing. We are currently on the verge of being unable to afford <br>
>producing the K-Factor which is about the only reason to stay on.<br>
><br>
> I tried to post this several days ago with an inline chart but the size <br>
>was 4K oversize for the list parameters. It's been awaiting approval of the
<br>
>moderator.<br>
><br>
> John Gayer<br>
> NSRCA 632<br>
><br>
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