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<DIV>Chris,</DIV>
<DIV>I replaced Don when he retired. He is a handling liason for Thales Training on the 787. Look forward to the tour.</DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi John,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That’s cool…. Thanks for that information, good to put an occupation with a name</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Yes, we work with Mike Sharp, Ed Erfort, Dave Humphries, and of course Karen Calabrese quite a bit. I used to do the Avionics portion of the jobs until we had to section off in to Avionics Specialists, so now my buddies do the interface with them. I used to work with Don Stylinski a lot…do you remember him. He was into restoring old Datsun Z cars, a really nice guy. Cool that you’re working the 787, it is one of my simulator development projects as well. ( Funny, I have a brother in law working the actual
aircraft lift components at Spirit in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Tulsa</st1:place></st1:City> too.) Actually the way the supplier architecture is on that airplane half the pattern flyers in the country may have something to do with it before its all said and done, huh?…</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">LOL<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you’re ever coming through <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Tulsa</st1:place></st1:City>, give me a buzz and we’ll do lunch and a tour.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face=Palatino color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Palatino">FlightSafety Simulation. 2700 N Hemlock<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face=Palatino color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Palatino">Circle, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Broken Arrow</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">OK</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">74012</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face=Palatino color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Palatino">918/259-5526<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>John Gayer<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, August 17, 2007 5:12 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] I'm off to a contest....</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi Chris,<BR><BR>I work for Honeywell in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:place></st1:City> and used to provide flight simulations for our avionics test benches. I used to work for Singer-Link on commercial flight simulators. Mainly the software simulation products, aero, engines, nav and Avionics interfacing.<BR>I now work on a team that provides Simulator support for the simulated Honeywell products our group puts together. i'm currently heavily engaged in 787 work. Our team is working with Flight Safety in a number of areas. <BR><BR>John<BR><BR><st1:PersonName w:st="on">White, Chris</st1:PersonName> wrote: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi Jim,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I noticed your address
is Baesystems....Can I ask what you do for them.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I procure data and parts for flights simulators of all types of aircraft<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">and wondered which division you worked?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">By the way....thanks for the nosering engine mounting stuff the other<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">day...it is going to be useful very soon on a new Defiant MkII.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><
PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks again...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Chris<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Chris White<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sr. Liaison Engineer<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Data & Equipment Group<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">FSI-SSD. 2700 N Hemlock<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Circle, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:Ci
ty w:st="on">Broken Arrow</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">OK</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">74012</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">918/259-5526<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">[<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@li
sts.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of Woodward,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jim<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:28 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] I'm off to a contest....<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">John,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Please give us enthused readers a short bio of yourself. Others like me<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">may have missed missed getting to know you over the last several years.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">You write with some conviction of the topics to please detail some of<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">your participation, district, etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PR
E><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jim W.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">is for the sole use of the intended recipie
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E><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">[<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of John<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Gayer<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:14 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></SPAN><
/FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] I'm off to a contest....<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dave,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Please read my comments below in red<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dave Lockhart wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">......so I won't be reading 100+ emails the next couple days. I<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">started <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">this new post because I simply couldn't decide how/which email to <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">respond to. So, forgive the somewhat scattered approach, but some <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">thoughts I have after the last few days -<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">- Why is Masters the largest class? Maybe because guys like the class?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Maybe because it is a "comfortable home" without the added <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">pressures/demands of F3A? Do we want to force happy Masters into F3A <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(or maybe force them out of pattern)? I'm not sure I see too many <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">people dropping out of pattern on their way from Adv to Masters. In <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">any case, I think any changes to the Masters pattern should be done <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=blac
k size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">with the greatest of care - it is the largest single class on average <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">at any given contest.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">this is a good argument for eliminating the class advancement system <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">completely. I see no more reason for forcing someone into Masters than <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">for forcing someone
out of Masters. Perhaps the option year I proposed <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">would work here.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">- Difficulty between classes. So what is the jump between Advanced and<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Masters is a little bit bigger than the jump from other classes - I <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">think it should be. Pilots with more experience are the best suited to<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">handle larger jumps. Pattern pilots by nature (meaning approach to <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">practicing and learning, recognizing limits) are not likely to wreck <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">planes learning new maneuvers for Masters, and this is (I think) even <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">more engrained after making several prior transitions (Int to Sport, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sport to Advanced). Besides, maneuver complexity itself is not the <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New
" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">only measure of difficulty between classes. Int is in part about <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">learning what the box is - that is quite a challenge for many. Sport <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">has more complex maneuvers, as does Advanced. To be competitive in <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Masters, you absolutely must be very skilled with the throttle and <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">know not only how to fly the maneuvers, but how to present/link the <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">maneuvers and present a seamless pattern.<o:p></o:p></SPAN>
</FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I agree completely. The only change I would make is to eliminate <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">turnaround from Sportsman. Let them focus on geometry, centering and <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">wings level before forcing them into scored turnaround manuevers. I see <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">no particular problem with the Advanced to Masters transistion as the <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><
PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">schedules are now.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">- Differences between Masters and F3A. Many seem to think because the <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"># of maneuvers, KFactor, and maneuver types are similar between <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Masters and F3A (prelims), that there is very little difference <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">between Masters and F3A. I don't agree.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">1) To be completive in F3A, you must fly at a hi
gher level, and in all<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">wind conditions.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I know Masters pilots are good flyers but how do they get the wind to <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">die? Is this something I need to learn before making the jump to <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Masters? Also, flying at a higher level is always a requirement of the <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON
T></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">next class.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">2) To be completive in F3A, you must be polished at both the prelim <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">and finals schedules - even if the finals schedule were the same <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">difficulty level as the prelims (and it isn't by any stretch), this is<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">not simply twice the work - it is more like 4 times the work.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">True. That's why I proposed the option year. I think everyone should at <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">least try competing at the next level before conceding it is not for<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">them.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FO
NT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">3) To be completive in F3A, you need to be quite comfortable with a <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">library full of integrated loop/roll maneuvers - and you need to be <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">truly comfortable rolling both directions in complex maneuvers.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Bottom line of which is I would advocate a Masters schedule which is <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">of similar diffic
ulty (# of maneuvers, KFactor, maneuver types, etc) <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">to the F3A prelims is indeed a step below F3A, and is indeed a good <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">stepping stone to F3A.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I contend that you are not a complete flyer until you can do integrated <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">loop/roll manuevers. This should be a challenge, not an objection. I <o:p></
o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">would definitely object to increasing the difficulty level of Masters. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">That slot is already taken by FAI. moving to FAI is also a two step <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">process. Most will probably not have to worry about the finals schedule <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">for a year or two.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">- Point system / Advancement.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">1) At the end of the day, how many people are really affected by the <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">point system? Most advance when appropriate, if not sooner. My opinion<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=blac
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">is that many advance as soon as they can consistently get through a <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">pattern - and they move up without developing any polish - which is <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">fine is the goal is not perfection. Recognize that participant levels <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">in different classes in different parts vary substantially, and vary <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">with time (speaking for the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>) - no point
system is going to be <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">exactly right all the time, and if we choose to, we can adjust it any <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">number of ways. And I think the only thing that matters is that we <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">technically have a point system on the books which can be employed to <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">force promotion of a clear "sandbagger". Does anyone want to see a <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">pilot in Int, Sport, or Adv who is not dominant in the class promoted <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2
><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">to a higher level where they may never be competitive, and may be <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">chased out of the event?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">much of this can be handled by an option year allowing one to go back a <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">class if the water is too deep at the next level. Or by eliminating the <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">point system completely f
or all classes. Just declare your class at the <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">beginning of the year and stay with it. Next year change to whatever you<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">want. I only want consistancy. If Masters can stay put, than classes <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">should have that option.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">2) F3A is F3A, and it is a quasi AMA class as it is referenced/listed <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">in the AMA book. I say quasi because the maneuver schedules are not <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">determined by the <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region> for the <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region>, and the amount of input the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> has on<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size
=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">the F3A schedules is quite limited (how many can actually name the guy<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">that represents the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> to FAI?). Forced advancement from Masters <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(which the <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region> controls) to F3A (which the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> has limited if any <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">control over) is not something I think should be pursued.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SI
ZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ron Chidgey, as I stated a while back. I still don't understand the <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">relevance of this argument. Schedules are schedules. Who cares who made <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">them up. The question really is whether the pattern "flows" and is it <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">too difficult for my skill level?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">3) The goal of a feeder system of classes to "build" the best F3A Team<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">for the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> is a great goal. However, not everyone has the time/desire <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">to pursue a spot on the US Team, and they need a "home" as well. As I <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">noted above, I think the current class structure does a good job of <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">feeding F3A, and it also has room for destination fliers in Masters. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Could a better feeder system be in place
if Masters were not a <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">destination class? Maybe. But I think pattern as a whole in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(including F3A) would suffer if any measurable number of current <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Masters pilots left the event due to changes to improve the feeder <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">system. The <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> pattern community is perhaps unique in the world of <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-S
IZE: 10pt">pattern - at the top, we have very substantial depth for fielding an <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">F3A Team. We have enough pilots to have 4 very competitive classes <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(including F3A) at the NATs every year. The "feeder" system in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">is far better than most (if not the best).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier N
ew" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Somehow this keeps sounding like it is OK for the current top level <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Masters flyers to hang around and compete for the top spots at the NATS.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Its perfectly legal in Masters but is not OK in any lower class. Why do <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">you suppose the up and coming kids bypass Masters and move directly to <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">FAI from Advanced? and if the feeder system is working so well, then we <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><
PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">should have the world champion and the world champion team year after <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">year. After all, we probably have as many pattern flyers as the rest of <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">the world put together. I believe having an FAI class where any of 15 or<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">more people could win the NATS and have a good shot at making the team <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">would increase the competition and create a stronger team(even if the <o:p></
o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">team members don't change).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Lastly, if the state of pattern is so good, why does the NSRCA <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">membership keep dropping? It would seem we need to make some changes to <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">remain a viable organization. I would love to see the membership numbers<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT
-SIZE: 10pt">for the last 10 years.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">John<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards to all<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dave Lockhart<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">DaveL322@comcast.net</A> <A href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net"><mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10
pt">-----------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
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