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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Very real, Vince.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:38
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More
flexibility inclassselection?-->Personal dilemma, what to do next
season</DIV>
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<DIV>Is this a joke or it is a real guy? </DIV>
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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</DIV>
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Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Claude Weimer" <<A
href="mailto:cweimer@tconl.com">cweimer@tconl.com</A>> <BR><BR>> Man,
a volatile guy. <BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message----- <BR>> From:
<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
<BR>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Fred
Huber <BR>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 6:41 PM <BR>> To: NSRCA
Mailing List <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in
<BR>> classselection?-->Personal dilemma, what to do next season
<BR>> <BR>> Be elitist <BR>> <BR>> Masters know everything
<BR>> <BR>> no one else's opinions are worth a crap <BR>> <BR>>
Doesn't matter that I;ve been flying RC 30 years <BR>> <BR>> Doesn't
matter that I've been building with balsa since I was 7 and my FIRST
<BR>> <BR>> HOME DESIGNED PLANE flew just fine... when I was 10
<BR>> <!
BR>> I know nothing <BR>> <BR>> I'm "Just a Sportsman" <BR>>
<BR>> bye <BR>> <BR>> Cancel my NSRCA membership <BR>> <BR>>
I won't be at the nexst contest <BR>> <BR>> I won't be helping at the
next local contest (which I have been doing every <BR>> year I have been
in the local club.) <BR>> <BR>> I won't support Pattern any more in
any way. <BR>> <BR>> And... I'll have my name pulled from this e-mail
list before you can <BR>> answer... AND DON'T e-mail "back channel.
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From:
"Matthew Frederick" <MJFREDERICK@COX.NET><BR>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007
6:27 PM <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class
<BR>> selection?-->Personal dilemma, what to do next season <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> > Glen didn't write that, George did. George is an
intermediate pilot. He is <BR>&! gt; > ; in no way an elitist, but he
is just as offended by the sandbagging <BR>> > comment <BR>> >
as everyone else who knows Arch and Glen. It has nothing to do with <BR>>
> "political correctness" like Fred tried to say. It has more to do with
how <BR>> > difficult it is to get your point across if you're trying
to speak through <BR>> <BR>> > a <BR>> > size 11 Nike. (Foot
in mouth for those having trouble with that). <BR>> > <BR>> >
Matt <BR>> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: "Pete
Cosky" <PCOSKY@COMCAST.NET><BR>> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> > Sent: Thursday, August 16,
2007 1:49 PM <BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility
in class <BR>> > selection? -->Personal dilemma, what to do next
season <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >> >I don't fly masters
but I'll be pissed if you let some newbie <BR>> >> &g! t;Sport
sman's <BR>> >>>comments keep you from defending your Masters
National Championship. < <BR>> >> <BR>> >> Glen,
<BR>> >> <BR>> >> I am sure you didn't mean anything by
it, but comments like that cause <BR>> >> people to think that
pattern pilots are elitists. I don't care who a <BR>> >> person
<BR>> >> is or if they even fly pattern at all; everyone is
entitled to their <BR>> >> opinion. I do not agree with Fred, but I
sure will let him express his <BR>> >> opinion without casting
dispersions on him or his current class. <BR>> >> <BR>> >>
We want to not only keep the people we have, including sportsman, but
<BR>> >> attract new blood and in my opinion making comments like
the one above <BR>> >> does <BR>> >> nothing to help the
sport. <BR>> >> <BR>> >> Just my opinion. <BR>>
>> <BR>> >> Pete <BR>> &! gt;> <BR>> >>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> >> From:
<GLMILLER3@SUDDENLINK.NET><BR>> >> To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> >> Sent: Thursday, August
16, 2007 2:00 <BR>> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More
flexibility in class selection? --> <BR>> >> Personal dilemma,
what to do next season <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>>
>>> Glen, <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> I don't fly
masters but I'll be pissed if you let some newbie <BR>> >>>
Sportsman's <BR>> >>> comments keep you from defending your
Masters National Championship. I <BR>> >>> love watching you fly
and frankly, I hope that you'll still be in <BR>> >>> Masters
<BR>> >>> when and/or if I ever get there to fly against you.
<BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> I've deleted several messages
before I sent them to this thread because <!
BR>> >>> I <BR>> >>> didn't want to add fuel to
the fire, but I'm really tired of people <BR>> >>> trying
<BR>> >>> to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Masters is the
top of the AMA <BR>> >>> pyramid and FAI is the international
competition. There isn't a real <BR>> >>> problem with people
sandbagging - at least none that I've seen in D6 <BR>> >>> this
<BR>> >>> year. So lets get over this and get on with having
fun! <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> I don't see any of the guys
that you are actually competing against that <BR>> >>> have a
problem with you defending your title! If you want to go FAI, <BR>>
>>> then <BR>> >>> please do, but make it your decision
and of course you can always fly <BR>> >>> Masters AND FAI at
different contests. <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> On a
different note, if your cruise gets raine! d out b y the storms headed
<BR>> >>> for the Gulf- I hope that you'll make it over to our
contest<G>! <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> George <BR>>
>>> <BR>> >>> ---- Glen Watson
<GWATSON11@HOUSTON.RR.COM>wrote: <BR>> >>>> Wow -- this
thread and others has become very personal and packed with <BR>>
>>>> emotionally based comments. <BR>> >>>>
<BR>> >>>> My recent success at the NATS has become
bitter-sweet full of highs and <BR>> >>>> lows <BR>>
>>>> on what I should do next. The rules state that I can return
to the <BR>> >>>> NATS <BR>> >>>> and <BR>>
>>>> defend my National Championship if I so desire. I'm asking
myself is <BR>> >>>> that <BR>> >>>> such a
bad thing. Well a few have voiced their opinions that it would <BR>>
>>>> be. <BR>> >>>>! I'm wo ndering if that is a
personal feeling or are they thinking what's <BR>> >>>> good
<BR>> >>>> for the pattern community as a whole? <BR>>
>>>> <BR>> >>>> My goals for the sport are
simple. First to have fun competing, this <BR>> >>>> includes
giving back to the sport in some manner. Second is to be as <BR>>
>>>> competitive as I can. <BR>> >>>> <BR>>
>>>> Giving back falls in a couple of categories: <BR>>
>>>> 1) Sharing my knowledge and experience with others to help
them have <BR>> >>>> fun <BR>> >>>> and
<BR>> >>>> be competitive in this sport. <BR>>
>>>> 2) Work with equipment supplier/manufacture to develop and
promote <BR>> >>>> their <BR>> >>>> product
offerings to the pattern community for us to enjoy. <BR>>
>>>> <BR>> >>&g! t;> The question I ask myself
is can I do both if I move to FAI? The short <BR>> >>>>
answer is yes, however what influence would I have if I was a middle of
<BR>> >>>> the <BR>> >>>> pack FAI competitor?
IMHO top level Masters competitors should have <BR>> >>>>
influence on equipments trends. Here in the US we are fortunate to <BR>>
>>>> have <BR>> >>>> a <BR>> >>>>
large group of national level competitors who would benefit from having
<BR>> >>>> more <BR>> >>>> options and
diversity in their equipment choices. From my vantage <BR>>
>>>> point <BR>> >>>> currently only the top FAI
class flyers world wide have the most <BR>> >>>> influence
<BR>> >>>> over the market. <BR>> >>>>
<BR>> >>>> Many of us (me included) buy the exact equipment
the top FAI <BR>>! >&g t;>> competitors <BR>>
>>>> use <BR>> >>>> to win their respective
National events or the Worlds. I feel there is <BR>> >>>> an
<BR>> >>>> opportunity for the top US Masters competitors to
have a similar <BR>> >>>> effect. <BR>> >>>> A
<BR>> >>>> good example of this is the collaboration between
Hester and Stafford. <BR>> >>>> Many <BR>>
>>>> will benefit from having an obtainable design manufactured
here in the <BR>> >>>> US <BR>> >>>> that's
competitive against any of the foreign import designs especially <BR>>
>>>> at <BR>> >>>> the Masters level. <BR>>
>>>> <BR>> >>>> My decision on what to do next
season is still pending. If I choose to <BR>> >>>> return to
Masters next season I asked not to be viewed as a sandbagger <BR>>
&g! t;>& gt;> but <BR>> >>>> as one who is for
bettering the quality and enjoyment of the sport. <BR>> >>>>
<BR>> >>>> ~Glen <BR>> >>>> <BR>>
>>>> <BR>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
<BR>> >>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
<BR>> >>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
On Behalf Of Mike <BR>> >>>> Hester <BR>> >>>>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:01 AM <BR>> >>>> To: NSRCA
Mailing List <BR>> >>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More
flexibility in class selection? <BR>> >>>> <BR>>
>>>> Well, I'm about to go out the door and do that novel thing
we call <BR>> >>>> "flying" <BR>> >>>>
(instead of typing). So, I'll be brief for now. <BR>> >>>>
<BR>> >>>> You just blatantly called Arch! Staffo rd a
"sandbagger" because he said <BR>> >>>> his <BR>>
>>>> goal was to win the nats in masters. You're right that it
may or may <BR>> >>>> not <BR>> >>>> ever
happen, and he knows this all too well. You need practice, skill, <BR>>
>>>> the <BR>> >>>> proper equipment, coaching,
and good old fashioned luck. He's certainly <BR>> >>>>
capable of it. <BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> Arch is
right where he belongs, whether you like it or not, and whether <BR>>
>>>> you <BR>> >>>> agree or not. Have you ever
seen him fly? I have, and he's a masters <BR>> >>>> pilot.
<BR>> >>>> One of the best. he got there by many many years
of hard work and <BR>> >>>> paying <BR>> >>>>
his <BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> dues. Yep he could
fly FAI if he chose to, bu! t to fl y FAI on a national <BR>>
>>>> level requires a LOT of time that most people simply don't
have. You <BR>> >>>> can't <BR>> >>>>
appreciate the difference until you try it yourself, in competition,
<BR>> >>>> not <BR>> >>>> at <BR>>
>>>> the practice field. it's DIFFERENT. The scoring is
different, the <BR>> >>>> manuevers <BR>> >>>>
are different, etc. <BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> Like
it or not, masters IS a destination class and I am almost 100% <BR>>
>>>> positive <BR>> >>>> <BR>>
>>>> that will not change. I also believe it should stay this
way. FAI is a <BR>> >>>> choice, and I like choices. I don't
hear any MASTERS pilots complaining <BR>> >>>> about Arch or
Glen or ?????? No, they like the competition, and they <BR>>
>>>> like <BR>> >! ;>&g t;> them as people.
<BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> Arch is a friend of mine
and I sponsor him. There's a reason for that. <BR>> >>>> I'd
<BR>> >>>> break my back to help that guy, why? Because he'd
do...and does...the <BR>> >>>> same <BR>> >>>>
for me, or anybody else. Calling any masters pilot a sandbagger is <BR>>
>>>> unproductive, provocative and uncalled for. When their life
and thier <BR>> >>>> own <BR>> >>>> goals
dictate the decision to move into FAI, let THEM make that <BR>>
>>>> decision. <BR>> >>>> You want to kill
pattern for good? Make long time masters pilots have <BR>>
>>>> to <BR>> >>>> move into FAI. It ain't gonna
work. <BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> -Mike <BR>>
>>>> <BR>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
<BR>> >&g! t;>& gt; From: "Fred Huber"
<FHHUBER@CLEARWIRE.NET><BR>> >>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday,
August 15, 2007 10:19 PM <BR>> >>>> Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class selection? <BR>>
>>>> <BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> >
Well... <BR>> >>>> > <BR>> >>>> > He is
the one who proclaimed that he was going to stay in the class <BR>>
>>>> > until <BR>> >>>> > he <BR>>
>>>> > won a particular event... which how many people have
EVER won? Out <BR>> >>>> > of <BR>> >>>>
> how <BR>> >>>> > many who have competed? <BR>>
>>>> > <BR>> >>>> > Sorry... the world does
not owe anyone any particular trophy. <BR>> >>>> >
<BR>> >>>> ! > Yo u say he's second best... maybe thats
the best he ever gets. <BR>> >>>> > <BR>>
>>>> > Every other competitor who goes to the NATS and flys
in Masters wants <BR>> >>>> > to <BR>> >>>>
> be <BR>> >>>> > the best too. Most will NEVER make
it. <BR>> >>>> > <BR>> >>>> > Most would
be damn glad to be called second best in this sport... <BR>>
>>>> > <BR>> >>>> > Reality is not
politically correct. <BR>> >>>> > <BR>>
>>>> > This is not the special olympics where everyone gets
the same trophy: <BR>> >>>> > "Participant" <BR>>
>>>> > <BR>> >>>> > ----- Original Message
----- <BR>> >>>> > From: "Matthew Frederick"
<MJFREDERICK@COX.NET><BR>> >>>> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.! ORG><BR>> >>>> > Sent:
Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:17 PM <BR>> >>>> > Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class selection? <BR>>
>>>> > <BR>> >>>> > <BR>>
>>>> >> Fred, <BR>> >>>> >> The
person who made the comment about not moving up until winning <BR>>
>>>> >> the <BR>> >>>> >> Nats
<BR>> >>>> >> was Arch Stafford. He's a very nice guy,
and according to the Nats <BR>> >>>> >> finish <BR>>
>>>> >> this year, he's probably the second-best Masters
pilot in the <BR>> >>>> >> nation. <BR>>
>>>> >> He <BR>> >>>> >> wants to be
the best before he moves up to F3A, it's a personal goal <BR>>
>>>> >> he <BR>> >>>> >> has <BR>>
>>>> >>! set an d well within the bounds of the rules.
Having met Arch, and <BR>> >>>> >> knowing <BR>>
>>>> >> what a decent guy he is, I frankly take offense at
you blatantly <BR>> >>>> >> calling <BR>>
>>>> >> him <BR>> >>>> >> out as a
sandbagger. I don't know one person who flys Masters in D6 <BR>>
>>>> >> who <BR>> >>>> >> would call
him that, and those are the people he competes with on a <BR>>
>>>> >> regular <BR>> >>>> >>
basis... There is currently no relevant points accumulation in <BR>>
>>>> >> Masters <BR>> >>>> >> other
<BR>> >>>> >> than for district championships as it is
the highest level of AMA <BR>> >>>> >> Pattern.
<BR>> >>>> >> I <BR>> >>>> >>
completely agree ! with th e point someone else made that stated we <BR>>
>>>> >> should <BR>> >>>> >> not
<BR>> >>>> >> force someone to a level of competition
that is out of the control <BR>> >>>> >> of <BR>>
>>>> >> the <BR>> >>>> >> AMA
Competition Regs. If I were ever in a situation that forced me <BR>>
>>>> >> to <BR>> >>>> >> move
<BR>> >>>> >> into F3A competition, I'd probably stop
flying pattern. Full <BR>> >>>> >> turnaround <BR>>
>>>> >> patterns was a hard enough pill to swallow. F3A
has too many <BR>> >>>> >> maneuvers <BR>>
>>>> >> that, <BR>> >>>> >> while
very beautiful when performed well, I don't personally <BR>>
>>>> >> consider <BR>> >>>> >> to
<BR>&g! t; > >>> >> be <BR>> >>>>
>> precision aerobatics. Snaps and spins are enough of a stretch.
<BR>> >>>> >> <BR>> >>>> >> Matt
<BR>> >>>> >> <BR>> >>>> >> -----
Original Message ----- <BR>> >>>> >> From: "Fred Huber"
<FHHUBER@CLEARWIRE.NET><BR>> >>>> >> To: "NSRCA Mailing
List" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> >>>> >>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:56 PM <BR>> >>>> >>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class selection?
<BR>> >>>> >> <BR>> >>>> >>
<BR>> >>>> >>> No sour grapes here about not being
able to win... I don't ever <BR>> >>>> >>> expect
<BR>> >>>> >>> to <BR>> >>>>
>>> accumulate the points needed to force adv! ancemen t from
Sportsman. <BR>> >>>> >>> The <BR>>
>>>> >>> hand-eye coordination just isn't there.
<BR>> >>>> >>> <BR>> >>>>
>>> The only way I'll take 3rd place in Sportsman is if there's
only 2 <BR>> >>>> >>> others <BR>>
>>>> >>> flying. I'm just in Pattern for the flight
discipline... and to be <BR>> >>>> >>> around
<BR>> >>>> >>> people who can help me quit breaking
airplanes. <BR>> >>>> >>> <BR>> >>>>
>>> I will probably move to Intermediate next year.. becaue I have
<BR>> >>>> >>> learned <BR>> >>>>
>>> almost as much as I can from the Sportman sequence.... I'll
place <BR>> >>>> >>> DEAD <BR>> >>>>
>>> LAST <BR>> >>>> >>>! FOREVE R. I'll fly
at the NATS in about 3 or 4 years too. <BR>> >>>>
>>> <BR>> >>>> >>> I do see the hypocracy
of people complaining about not being <BR>> >>>> >>>
competitive <BR>> >>>> >>> if <BR>>
>>>> >>> they move up... and sitting firmly in the
lower class for years so <BR>> >>>> >>> they
<BR>> >>>> >>> can <BR>> >>>>
>>> always win... <BR>> >>>> >>> <BR>>
>>>> >>> "I won't move up until I WIN the NATS" is why
they came up with the <BR>> >>>> >>> point <BR>>
>>>> >>> system to force people to move up...
sandbagger. (not even <BR>> >>>> >>> bothering
<BR>> >>>> >>> to <BR>> >>>>
>>> look up who made the referenced post...) ! <BR>> ;
>>>> >>> <BR>> >>>> >>> The
only way I'll take 3rd place in Sportsman is if there's only 2 <BR>>
>>>> >>> others <BR>> >>>> >>>
flying. <BR>> >>>> >>> <BR>> >>>>
>>> I take offense at rules that are unfair. <BR>>
>>>> >>> <BR>> >>>> >>> I take
offense at people who revise the rules to suit thier <BR>>
>>>> >>> personal <BR>> >>>>
>>> agendas. <BR>> >>>> >>> <BR>>
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>
>>>> >>> From: <SEEFO@SAN.RR.COM><BR>>
>>>> >>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> >>>> >>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:40 PM <BR>> >>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRC! A-discu ssion] More flexibility in class
<BR>> >>>> >>> selection? <BR>> >>>>
>>> <BR>> >>>> >>> <BR>>
>>>> >>>>I know Glen. <BR>> >>>>
>>>> <BR>> >>>> >>>> My question was
more rhetorical than anything else, and I really <BR>> >>>>
>>>> just <BR>> >>>> >>>> put it out
there to try to clarify the issue. There seems to be a <BR>>
>>>> >>>> division amongst people who want Masters
to be that stepping stone <BR>> >>>> >>>> class
verses those who want Masters to be a destination all by <BR>>
>>>> >>>> itself <BR>> >>>>
>>>> (which it currently is). <BR>> >>>>
>>>> <BR>> >>>> >>>> I do think the
idea of a progression rule whe! reby a pilot who does <BR>>
>>>> >>>> not <BR>> >>>>
>>>> meet a given criteria has the option of moving down. I
personally <BR>> >>>> >>>> like <BR>>
>>>> >>>> the 'qualification' bar idea. For example,
a pilot moves up to <BR>> >>>> >>>> Masters
<BR>> >>>> >>>> from Advanced. In their 1st
contest, if they are unable to achieve <BR>> >>>>
>>>> an <BR>> >>>> >>>> AVERAGE
normalized score of at least 800, they are given the <BR>>
>>>> >>>> option <BR>> >>>>
>>>> of <BR>> >>>> >>>> moving back
to Advanced. The 800 number is arbitrary and used for <BR>>
>>>> >>>> example only. <BR>> >>>>
>>>> <BR>> >>>> >>>> I gue! ss my b
iggest problem with these threads, is they give me a <BR>>
>>>> >>>> big <BR>> >>>>
>>>> sense of sour grapes from people as I read them talk
continually <BR>> >>>> >>>> about <BR>>
>>>> >>>> not being able to win. Last I checked this
was competition, and if <BR>> >>>> >>>> you
<BR>> >>>> >>>> want to win, you perfect your own
flying until you can do it <BR>> >>>> >>>> better
<BR>> >>>> >>>> than everyone else. You don't
tell the guy beating you to go play <BR>> >>>>
>>>> somewhere else so you can feel good about yourself.
<BR>> >>>> >>>> <BR>> >>>>
>>>> Of course I could be completely wrong. It wouldn't be the
1st <BR>> >>>> >>>> time. <BR>> >>>!
;> & gt;>>> (just ask my wife) <BR>> >>>>
>>>> <BR>> >>>> >>>> -Doug <BR>>
>>>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> >>>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> >>>> >>>>
From: Glen Watson <GWATSON11@HOUSTON.RR.COM><BR>> >>>>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:24 pm <BR>>
>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More
flexibility in class <BR>> >>>> >>>> selection?
<BR>> >>>> >>>> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> >>>> >>>>
<BR>> >>>> >>>>> There is no mandatory
advancement from Masters... <BR>> >>>> >>>>>
<BR>> >>>> >>>>> The following was copied from
the current AMA rulebook... <BR>> >>>> &! gt;>
>>> <BR>> >>>> >>>>> 8.2.5. There is
no mandatory advancement into FAI from the <BR>> >>>>
>>>>> Masters <BR>> >>>> >>>>>
class.Contestants may enter their current AMA class or the FAI <BR>>
>>>> >>>>> class at any <BR>> >>>>
>>>>> contest but not both. <BR>> >>>>
>>>>> <BR>> >>>> >>>>> ~Glen
<BR>> >>>> >>>>> <BR>> >>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- <BR>> >>>>
>>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <BR>>
>>>> >>>>>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of <BR>>
>>>> >>>>> seefo@san.rr.com <BR>>
>>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:51
PM! <BR>&g t; >>>> >>>>> To: NSRCA Mailing
List <BR>> >>>> >>>>> Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class <BR>> >>>>
>>>>> selection? <BR>> >>>>
>>>>> <BR>> >>>> >>>>> <BR>>
>>>> >>>>> It seems to me the real question that
must be answered (yet <BR>> >>>> >>>>> again)
<BR>> >>>> >>>> is: <BR>> >>>>
>>>>> <BR>> >>>> >>>>> Is
Masters a destination class or not? <BR>> >>>>
>>>>> <BR>> >>>> >>>>> -Doug
<BR>> >>>> >>>>>
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>>>> >> <BR>> >>>> >> <BR>>
>>>> >> <BR>> >>>> >> -- <BR>>
>>>> >> No virus found in this incoming message. <BR>>
>>>> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. <BR>>
>>>> >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 -
Release Date: <BR>> >>>> >> 8/14/2007 <BR>>
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