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The administrators would have to be a volunteer group, similar to the
administrators of this list. These lists do not exist by magic. I help
to administor a different list and know what a pain it can be at times.
As would working the issues of the national ranking database. I did
offer to help with the project.<br>
As far as hiding from your quality of flying, I suggest looking at the
people you are ahead of rather than behind. When I flew F3A, that was
sometimes the only way to keep trying. <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span>
:-) </span></span>Of course I still had a problem when I looked down
and there was noone there.<br>
<br>
john<br>
george w. kennie wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">John,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I'm playing Devil's Advocate here. A
couple of things. There's always the question of, Who's going to
administrate ???? And secondly, do I really want to know how bad I
really am in light of the fact that I have been telling myself the
opposite for such a very long time ?</font></div>
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I'd like to present a proposal that might appeal to a few if not the
many....<br>
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<b>Redirect the focus to our international team competition through
modification of the advancement system<br>
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<ol>
<li>Modify the advancement process to be consistent through all
classes from Sportsman through to F3A. See section two for possible
advancement criteria </li>
<li>Advancement can be forced by the advancement criteria(see
section 2) or voluntary.<br>
</li>
<li>The first year in a new and higher class is an option year.
At the end of the option year you can downselect one class for any
reason. </li>
</ol>
This has the advantage of being able to try out the higher class for a
year without committing your entire pattern career. If you discover
that the next class is beyond your means( time, money or talent) then
you option down the following year. If you absolutely refuse to fly
your new class, then perhaps you could use the time and money to
reintroduce your self to your wife, girlfriend, etc. If you need a goal
for the year, focus on making your rudder commands instinctive, learn
to fly a helicopter, learn to fly rolling circles. You would probably
come back a better pattern flyer than when you left.<br>
<br>
<b>Create a National Database for Pattern<br>
</b><br>
The database must contain the raw scores of all flights for <u>all</u>
competitors by class. The only thing normalized scores are good for is
finding the right finish order for each class at a contest. Raw scores
are much better for comparing results even at a contest. For example I
finish round one with a 930 and round two with a 985, both to
competitor A. Now did I fly a lot better in round two(I thought I did)
or did competitor A flop a stall turn in the figure M in round 2.<br>
Anyway once you have the raw scores by competitor and class, you can do
the following:<br>
<ol>
<li>Create a National Ranking for each class based on average
points per maneuver. Once this is in place and on line, we will have a
reason for pattern competitors to join NSRCA. you can't tell me that
there wouldn't be a lot of interest in seeing who is hot around the
country and how you stack up against the competition. I know, the
judging isn't always equal but that's always been true and we have to
live with it. <br>
</li>
<li>The data available on each competitor would include contests
entered, placing, advance points earned. The districts could extract
whatever data is required to ascertain the district champions. We could
archive previous years as well. </li>
<li>Other ways to specify advancement in class become available,
percentage of average FAI score, even eventually moving the 10
top-rated pilots up a class. Possibilities are endless when you have
the data.<br>
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Since the database would only be open to NSRCA members, if you want to
track your National standing, joining NSRCA would be a must. If you
want to see what the guy nobody heard of that just rolled in from out
of district has accomplished, look him up. We've been looking for
reasons to join NSRCA, I feel this is one that could be big and would
be worth some investment in time and money. I would be willing to help
with such a project although I don't feel like I could take it on by
myself.<br>
<br>
Comments?????<br>
John<br>
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