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Gene,<br>
<br>
my statement was tongue in cheek. Of course the current rules make an
exception for Masters.What I didn't know was that FAI is an Official
AMA Class. I assumed it wasn't because we have to go to a separate
rulebook to figure out how to fly it. As an AMA class it becomes even
harder to justify the advancement exception.<br>
<br>
John<br>
<br>
Gene Maurice wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">For those
that haven’t read it,
please read the rulebook.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">The
applicable sections are:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">7.
Pattern event classes. </span></font></b><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">The
Pattern event shall<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">be
divided into five (5) classes. The first four (4)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">shall
(in order of increasing difficulty) be<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">referred
to as Sportsman, Intermediate,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">Advanced,
and Masters. The fifth class shall be<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">referred
to as the FAI class. The Sportsman class<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">is
supplemental (see Supplemental and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">Provisional
Rules, page 2). Competitors must be<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">advised
prior to the start of the contest of any<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">planned
deviations from standard AMA rules<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">pertaining
to the events they have entered.</span></font><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT; color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">8.2.
</span></font></b><font color="black" face="TimesNewRomanPSMT"
size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">A
contestant will be mandatorily<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">advanced
through the classes as follows: A flier<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">must
move out of the Sportsman class at the end<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">of
that calendar year if he places first, second, or<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">third,
and above at least four (4) other fliers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">(having
recorded an official flight) in any<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">sanctioned
Pattern class contest. For<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">Intermediate
and Advanced fliers, advancement<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">takes
place through the accumulation of points.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">In
these classes, contestants receive points<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">according
to their finishing place in every contest<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">they
compete in. For fliers finishing third or<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">below
in a given contest, they will receive points<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">equal
to the number of official (having recorded<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">an
official flight) fliers they beat. The second<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">place
winner will receive points equal to twice<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">the
number of official fliers he beats, and the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">first
place winner will receive points equal to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">three
times the number of official fliers he beats.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">The
points each contestant receives go into his<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">cumulative
record.</span></font><font color="black" face="TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT"
size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT; color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">8.2.5.
</span></font></b><font color="black" face="TimesNewRomanPSMT"
size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">There
is no mandatory<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">advancement
into FAI from the Masters class.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">Contestants
may enter their current AMA class<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">or
the FAI class at any contest but not both.</span></font><font
color="black" face="TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT; color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">8.3.
</span></font></b><font color="black" face="TimesNewRomanPSMT"
size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">Each
Pattern contestant is<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">responsible
for maintaining an accurate record of<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">his
own classification points. Handy wallet size<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">Classification
Advancement Record forms are<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">available
upon request from AMA HQ; please<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">include
a preaddressed and stamped return<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">envelope.
CDs of meets having RC Pattern<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">events
are also provided with a small supply of<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font color="black"
face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; color: windowtext;">such
forms.</span></font><font color="black" face="TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT"
size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT; color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Gene Maurice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><a
href="mailto:gene.mauirce@sgmservice.com">gene.mauirce@sgmservice.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font
color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Plano</span></font></st1:City><font
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">, <st1:State w:st="on">Texas</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">AMA 3408 NSRCA 877</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
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style="font-size: 12pt; color: windowtext;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>John Gayer<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
August 15, 2007
7:13 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]
More flexibility in class selection?</span></font><font color="black"><span
style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">That must mean the progression
rules are in effect for
all AMA classes, right? Including 406?<br>
<br>
Tim Taylor wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FAI is class 406, an AMA
Class, Just checked the rule
book.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <a
href="http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/rulebooks/RC%20Aerobatics.pdf">http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/rulebooks/RC%20Aerobatics.pdf</a><br>
<br>
<b><i><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Fred Huber
<a href="mailto:fhhuber@clearwire.net"><fhhuber@clearwire.net></a></span></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">In that case... there's no
support for offering FAI
class at an AMA sanctioned event. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Its not an AMA class. Have a
seperate contest.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">That worm turns 2 ways.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">----- Original Message
----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">The bottom line is
this...the AMA has 4 classes, the
top level being Masters. FAI is an international F3A class, not a AMA
class..."in my opinion" there can never be a mandatory progression
from an AMA SIG class to an international class.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">As for your question, my
logic should, and does,
apply to every class controlled by the AMA...which is what I'm
talking about.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net" title="jgghome@comcast.net">John
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href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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August 15, 2007 4:38 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Why does this apply to every
class except Masters?? <br>
Aren't there better flyers available to learn from in FAI? :)<br>
John<br>
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Ken Thompson wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about!!! You will only get better if you do one of two things, 1. Fly against people that are better than you, obviously paying attention to their flights. 2. Have a pilot that is better than you willing to coach you. I've been blessed with having both...any contest I go to in D6 will have pilots that are better than I am, and I have Archie as a coach to help me through the little things. BTW: I fully expect to be flying Masters in 6 or 7 years. That will put me at 54 or 55 years old when I make the move. Personally I have no desire to go to contests and come in 1st or 2nd on a regular basis, AND stay in that class...it simply won't make me a better pilot. My goal is to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> get better every year, with hard work and patience, it will happen. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <a
href="mailto:rcpattern@stx.rr.com"><rcpattern@stx.rr.com></a> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class selection? <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">I take exception to this. FAI and Masters are not related. I have been flying masters several years, finishing as high as second this year at the NATS. Yes, I'm coming back next year in Masters. I have a goal of winning the nats before I move up. I can be realistic...at some point with enough practice I might be able to crack the finals in FAI at the NATS, but I'm smart enough to know that realistically winning FAI isnt going to happen. I<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> would also argue that the guys that have been flying masters for years, just raise the bar. I know in different areas I've flown around the country, these are the guys that make guys fly better. Show up in District 6 sometime, and fly Masters...you'll definitely get better. 6 of the top 10 at the NATS were D6. The means, guy that finished in the top 10 at the NATS in what is probably top to bottom the most competitive class have trouble getting wood at a local contest. I can promise you though, the guys that fly here have greatly improved their flying than they would have in other parts of the country. Glen has set the bar here for a while, and I know the other guys are pushing to catch him, and if you look now at local contest scores, it is getting closer. At any given time down here in D6, I'd say 6 or 7 guys can take a round in
masters. Now that makes it fun. I know when I was flying in D4 last year. Every contest I went to, was Verne K, and<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> Steve Miller....I knew I'd better put up great flights every flight and this makes you a better pilot. I think you should try moving up...take a year of the low 900's, and then see where you are the following year. I bet you start moving up and before you know it you would be right there in the mix. This is a competitive activity and the only way you improve is flying against people who are better than you. Arch ----- Original Message ----- From: John Gayer <a
href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net"><jgghome@comcast.net></a> Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:41 pm Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class selection? To: NSRCA Mailing List <a
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> there be a mandatory move from Masters to F3A? They are just two patterns with a natural progression as there is between Advanced and Masters. Parking and sandbagging is a mental state, not a rules violation. john Ron Van Putte wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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href="mailto:BUDDYonRC@aol.com">BUDDYonRC@aol.com</a> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">all the control we need. I think this is worth a try. For those who have the ability and desire to achieve a spot at <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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