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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hay Ron, I
remember that. I remember doing that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim Hiller<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Gayer<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 15, 2007
4:52 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Advancement: let's wrap it up</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>We used to(long time ago)
have a card that would be signed off by the CD. We used to look at advancement
as something to be earned and made sure we got the points posted on the card.<br>
John<br>
<br>
Ron Van Putte wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>AMA does not track advancement points. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Ron Van Putte<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Matthew Frederick wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"></O:SMARTTAGTYPE>I
was under the impression that contest results were forwarded to the AMA by the
CD, and that it was incumbent on the AMA and the individual to track their own
AMA points. Am I mistaken?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Matt</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
<div style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'>----- Original Message
----- </div>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
font-weight:bold'>
<div style='-moz-background-clip: initial;-moz-background-origin: initial;
-moz-background-inline-policy: initial;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;
background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:
50%;background-repeat:repeat'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:fhhuber@clearwire.net" title="fhhuber@clearwire.net">Fred Huber</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
font-weight:bold'>
<div style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
</p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
font-weight:bold'>
<div style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
August 15, 2007 12:16 PM</div>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
font-weight:bold'>
<div style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Advancement: let's wrap it up</div>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Actually...
we need to include non-NSRCA Pattern flyers in the recordskeeping if there is
going to be a points system forcing moving up.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>No recordkeeping...then
the system is meaningless.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Recordkeeping
only for NSRCA members = members end up at a disadvantage to the sandbaggers
who aren't members.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NSRCA is the
Special Interest Group REPREASENTING Pattern to the AMA... but membership is
not required to comnpete in Pattern. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>You can
petition the AMA to require membership to compete in Pattern (lead
balloon) </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>or </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>you can just
deal with the paperwork involved in handling the point system for non-paying
Pattern flyers... </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>or </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>you can just
drop the point system totally.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Right now...
there are 2 reasons for people to join NSRCA: Support the SIG.... or...
attempt to get the District champ awards.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:113.0pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The old
80%/20% rule applies... 20% of the active members do all the work so that the
other 80% can enjoy the hobby.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<div style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'>----- Original Message
----- </div>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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mso-border-left-alt:solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
font-weight:bold'>
<div style='-moz-background-clip: initial;-moz-background-origin: initial;
-moz-background-inline-policy: initial;font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal;
background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:
50%;background-repeat:repeat'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href="mailto:twtaylor@ftc-i.net"
title="twtaylor@ftc-i.net">twtaylor</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
font-weight:bold'>
<div style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
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<div style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
August 15, 2007 6:18 AM</div>
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<div style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Advancement: let's wrap it up</div>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Lance one minor point that would kill the District Champion idea,
Not all pattern fliers are NSRCA members. We’d have to include non-members in
the point chase and that’s not fair.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lance Van Nostrand<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 15, 2007
12:59 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <ST1:PERSONNAME u1:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion]
Advancement: let's wrap it up</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><O:P> </O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://www.modelaircraft.org/PDF-files/333.pdf">http://www.modelaircraft.org/PDF-files/333.pdf</a></span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Here's
the rules proposal form. If we can get one or three people to fill it in
and post it for review here maybe this discussion will result in something.</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Here's
a summary of what I think I've read (beware of severe summarizing):</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Advancement
rules based on hard numbers (like 100 points) are wrong because some people go
to more contests or some districts have more pilots. A system based on
percentages would be better. We've heard a comparison to a national
average (need an implementable procedure to accurately compute this), force up
of the district champs, and accumulating the raw scores for the year into
averages that can be compared.</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We've
also heard of simply tracking and publishing points and letting heckling take
care of the rest (really need a 3 or 4 year window on this to allow one to
level off before masters). Note: this was the way it was 4 years ago, but
that was before every district could post points on their website. It
didn't work then.</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Several
recommendations to increase the points above 100, but this is really just an
adjustment for the size of the district so if this can be modified into a way
to calculate an advancement number by district, maybe it could work.</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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