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Glen,<br>
yes I won all three contests I have entered in the past two seasons by
narrow margins against some good competition. However, there was not
very much of it. the three contests had a total of nine advanced
entries and that includes me.<br>
>From the current point method of advancement that is 4*3+3*3+2*3 = 27
points in two years. <br>
The Lubbock contest is coming up. Is eastern D6 going to show?<br>
John<br>
<br>
Glen Watson wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">According to
the current rules there is no
mandatory move from Masters to FAI.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">John, I
looked up results for the western D6
contest posted on <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Don Ramsey</st1:PersonName>’s
web site. Appears you’re the guy in Advanced in that area the other
guys wish would move up…hmmmm. Trust me I felt the same way you did
about Masters when I made the move from Advanced.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Wish our
geography was different so we
could compete together. As Arch stated in his post we all improve from
pushing each other.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">~Glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>John Gayer<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
August 15, 2007
4:35 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]
More flexibility in class selection?</span></font><font color="black"><span
style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Arch,<br>
your statement that the two patterns(FAI and Masteres) are not related
is
unsupported. I would contend that the only difference in difficulty
between
them is in the rolling elements.<br>
<br>
You seem to be proving my point for me.<br>
You are not willing to move to FAI until you win the NATS in Masters.
That's
one hell of a promotion criteria. There certainly wouldn't be a lot of
movement
between classes if we all took that approach.<br>
On the other hand, I am supposed to move up and take my lumps at sub
900s in
Masters?<br>
<br>
I suggest that if some of you eastern D6ers moved to FAI, you would
then have
two hotly contested classes where a number of flyers could win a
round....<br>
<br>
John<br>
western D6<br>
<br>
<a href="mailto:rcpattern@stx.rr.com">rcpattern@stx.rr.com</a> wrote:
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">I take exception to this. FAI and Masters are not related. I have <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">been flying masters several years, finishing as high as second this <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">year at the NATS. Yes, I'm coming back next year in Masters. I have <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">a goal of winning the nats before I move up. I can be realistic...at <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">some point with enough practice I might be able to crack the finals in <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">FAI at the NATS, but I'm smart enough to know that realistically <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">winning FAI isnt going to happen. I would also argue that the guys <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">that have been flying masters for years, just raise the bar. I know <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">in different areas I've flown around the country, these are the guys <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">that make guys fly better. Show up in District 6 sometime, and fly <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Masters...you'll definitely get better. 6 of the top 10 at the NATS <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">were D6. The means, guy that finished in the top 10 at the NATS in <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">what is probably top to bottom the most competitive class have trouble <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">getting wood at a local contest. I can promise you though, the guys <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">that fly here have greatly <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">improved their flying than they would have in other parts of the <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">country. Glen has set the bar here for a while, and I know the other <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">guys are pushing to catch him, and if you look now at local contest <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">scores, it is getting closer. At any given time down here in D6, I'd <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">say 6 or 7 guys can take a round in masters. Now that makes it fun. I <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">know when I was flying in D4 last year. Every contest I went to, was <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Verne K, and Steve Miller....I knew I'd better put up great flights <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">every flight and this makes you a better pilot. I think you should <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">try moving up...take a year of the low 900's, and then see where you <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">are the following year. I bet you start moving up and before you know <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">it you would be right there in the mix. This is a competitive <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">activity and the only way you improve is flying against people who are <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">better than you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Arch<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">From: John Gayer <a
href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net"><jgghome@comcast.net></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:41 pm<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More flexibility in class selection?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">Ron,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">I take exception to those rules. There should be only one <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">destination <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">class. Why shouldn't there be a mandatory move from Masters to <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">F3A? They <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">are just two patterns with a natural progression as there is <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">between <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Advanced and Masters.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Parking and sandbagging is a mental state, not a rules violation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">john<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Ron Van Putte wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">The Master class is the top AMA class and there is no mandatory <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">move <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">from the Master class to F3A, so how can there be "parkers" or <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">"sandbaggers"? <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Ron Van Putte<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">On Aug 15, 2007, at 2:10 PM, John Gayer wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">how about changing the AMA advancemant rule and keep it very <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">simple?>> Your first contest of the year will determine your class <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">for the <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">year. You may go up one class at any time during the year but <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">may not <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">go back down during the year. At the start of the next year you <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">may <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">drop back one class at your option, stay where you are or go up <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">a class.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">This is simple enough that your fellow competitiors will know <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">if you <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">are following the rules. It will also be up to your fellow <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">competitiors to insure that you are not sandbagging.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">I also feel strongly that sandbagging in Masters should not be <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">allowed. If you disregard Sportsman, then half of the classes <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">allow <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">to allow this behavior in Masters. As a competant advanced <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">Masters in order to spend the rest of my pattern years trying <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">break 900 against the parkers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">I fail to see the logic in having two destination classes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">designed as a stepping stone to Masters. Let's use it that way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">There was a proposal on the last rules cycle that would allow <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">person to move up and test his ability then move back if he <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">attained the skills required for the higher class. I <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">think it is a good idea and I also see no need for the point <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">like someone said if someone abuses the privilege we can <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">Earl and four other guys his size to take him behind the barn <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">splain to him why he will be moving up. I believe peer <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">all the control we need.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">I think this is worth a try.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">For those who have the ability and desire to achieve a spot at <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">top I don't see that we have a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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