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<DIV><FONT size=2>Actually... we need to include non-NSRCA Pattern flyers in the
recordskeeping if there is going to be a points system forcing moving
up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>No recordkeeping...then the system is
meaningless.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Recordkeeping only for NSRCA members = members end up at a
disadvantage to the sandbaggers who aren't members.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>NSRCA is the Special Interest Group REPREASENTING Pattern to
the AMA... but membership is not required to comnpete in Pattern.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>You can petition the AMA to require membership to compete in
Pattern (lead balloon) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>or </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>you can just deal with the paperwork involved in handling the
point system for non-paying Pattern flyers... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>or </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>you can just drop the point system totally.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Right now... there are 2 reasons for people to join
NSRCA: Support the SIG.... or... attempt to get the District champ
awards.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The old 80%/20% rule applies... 20% of the active members do
all the work so that the other 80% can enjoy the hobby.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=twtaylor@ftc-i.net href="mailto:twtaylor@ftc-i.net">twtaylor</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:18
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Advancement: let's wrap it up</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lance one minor point
that would kill the District Champion idea, Not all pattern fliers are NSRCA
members. We’d have to include non-members in the point chase and that’s not
fair.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Lance Van
Nostrand<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday,
August 15, 2007 12:59 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement:
let's wrap it up</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="http://www.modelaircraft.org/PDF-files/333.pdf">http://www.modelaircraft.org/PDF-files/333.pdf</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here's the rules proposal
form. If we can get one or three people to fill it in and post it for
review here maybe this discussion will result in
something.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here's a summary of what I think
I've read (beware of severe summarizing):</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Advancement rules based on hard
numbers (like 100 points) are wrong because some people go to more contests or
some districts have more pilots. A system based on percentages would be
better. We've heard a comparison to a national average (need an
implementable procedure to accurately compute this), force up of the district
champs, and accumulating the raw scores for the year into averages that can be
compared.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We've also heard of simply
tracking and publishing points and letting heckling take care of the rest
(really need a 3 or 4 year window on this to allow one to level off before
masters). Note: this was the way it was 4 years ago, but that was before
every district could post points on their website. It didn't work
then.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Several recommendations to
increase the points above 100, but this is really just an adjustment for the
size of the district so if this can be modified into a way to calculate an
advancement number by district, maybe it could
work.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">--Lance</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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