<div>Tim, I believe there was the Advanced class at the same time there was an Expert class.</div> <div> </div> <div>Novice, Sportsman, Advanced, Masters, Expert, FAI. Expert was dropped when all classes went turnaround.</div> <div> </div> <div>Bob R.</div> <div><BR><BR><B><I>Dave Lockhart <davel322@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)" name=Generator> <STYLE> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </STYLE> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:SmartTagType name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="country-region"
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font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.EmailStyle21 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </STYLE> <DIV class=Section1> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tim,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was on a couple of the sequence committees back in the late 80s early 90s.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div
class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">When F3A went turnaround, many of the top <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> flyers flew F3A, leaving AMA Masters a bit thin. It was very common to have the Expert and Masters classes combined (and flying the Expert schedule). The combination of reduced overflight and reduced noise with F3A turnaround was very forward thinking and did much to save flying fields. Many liked the idea of turnaround, but starting at the top class was a tall order. Ergo, the introduction of AMA Expert Turnaround – but it was never intended to be a permanent class, just a transitional class.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy;
FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Dave Lcokhart<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">DaveL322@comcast.net</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>twtaylor<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:51 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'NSRCA Mailing List'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Sequences</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <div
class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“Expert Turn Around“during that time was the only AMA class that flew turn around and inside the box. The current advance is about the same as it was. So for some odd reason they decided to delete Expert TA and change all classes to turn around and Expert got renamed Advanced. Expert TA schedule was almost identical to the first version of FAI. A lot of contests then didn’t fly FAI as it wasn’t an AMA class. Most fliers back then were dead set against flying Turn Around. The powers to be didn’t listen and went with it anyway. Probably the best decision but back then it sure caused a lot of fights.Go figure<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy;
FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Verne Koester<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:37 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Sequences</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV>
<div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We used to have that in a class called Expert, but too many CD's were eating trophy's for lack of contestants. I've developed schedules before and know exactly what you were dealing with. My personal opinion is that you did it as well as it can be done within the parameters. I'm not a big fan of changing the schedules below masters if they're teaching the lessons to be learned. The schedules below masters aren't and shouldn't be designed for someone to camp there. The goal is to learn what you need on your way to masters or fai with the realization that there will still be plenty more to learn once you get there. I like Jon Lowe's idea of flying the schedule upside down if you're bored. You'll quickly find that the only part of that that gets
tricky, and sometimes dicey, are the rolling maneuvers.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Verne</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> <div class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=phelps15@comcast.net href="mailto:phelps15@comcast.net">Bill Pritchett</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:14 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold;
FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Sequences<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Verne-</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks! So ...... is it possible to keep that Sportsman schedule and change Intermediate on a pretty regular basis and still address the process of preparation??? I think it is.... I'm of the opinion that there is nothing wrong with someone flying Intermediate year after year if that addresses their interest, preparation, and skill level. Ideally,
all sequences would prepare for the next level. The difficulty in addressing this in the Advanced/Masters situation is that Advanced needs to be the step up from Intermediate and Masters needs to be challenging enough to address the many flyers that don't go on to FAI <STRONG><B><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">and yet</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG>, prepare Masters pilots for FAI! It's really a very complicated domino effect. In looking at all the schedules, it appears to me that we are missing a class between Advanced and Masters.....used to be between Intermediate and Advanced..... that's the educator in me talking. Using the four AMA classes, it's really difficult to have the nice step we have now from Sportsman to Intermediate at all levels....... it is, however, with exchanges like we're having now, possible!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Pritch</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> <div class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=verne@twmi.rr.com href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">Verne Koester</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:39 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Sequences<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bill,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My personal opinion from the judges chair is that you guys created the best Sportsman schedule we've ever had. It's the only one I've ever seen since we went to all-turnaround that prepares a new pilot for the next step. Just my opinion.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
<DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Verne</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> <div class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=phelps15@comcast.net href="mailto:phelps15@comcast.net">Bill Pritchett</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div
class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:01 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Sequences<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As a member of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Troy</st1:City></st1:place>'s committee a couple years ago, allow me to share the following thoughts:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-yes, we need to eliminate the 2 year rule and give ourselves the option of changing AMA event schedules as we desire;</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-yes, the jump is bigger now from Advanced to Masters. At the time, the overwhelming opinion was that the jump used to be too big to Advanced from Intermediate;</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div
class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-yes, the lower classes need to change as well as Masters. I could possibly be convinced that Sportsman stay the same, but if we want to include an element of NSRCA retention into this thread, then the needs of the flyer that doesn't practice much, have the "right" equipment, etc. should be able to come to a few contests a year in Intermediate, have fun, and go on.... In order for that person to maintain interest, the schedule for Intermediate would need to be changed as well. For those "moving through" the lower classes, this isn't an issue since it's new to them anyway, regardless of the schedule. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-yes, the place to start with this would be at the EC level of AMA</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div
class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Pritch</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> <div class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">Derek Koopowitz</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:48 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Since the majority of the contest board are active pattern pilots, perhaps we can petition the AMA EC (thru Steve Kaluf) to discuss these concerns so that we can then put in a proposal to have the sequences removed. I'm in full agreement with what is being discussed with regard to the time frames - it is not conducive to allowing the SIGs that modify/add rules/sequences to do it within a time frame that benefits our members. <BR><BR> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=gmailquote><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On
7/26/07, <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Mark Atwood</SPAN></B> <<A href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN> <o:p></o:p></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hey Ed,<BR><BR>Not trying to argue a moot point, but you commented that "even if it does<BR>take 2 years, it really doesn't have to"... That's the part I think you're <BR>missing.<BR><BR>Even IF we could create, test,survey and decide on a new sequence in a<BR>DAY...the AMA REQUIRES it 2 years in advance of it being flown.<BR><BR>So the solution we are offering is to remove the sequences as part of the <BR>"Rules"...that would allow us to use a process as you describe to<BR>efficiently alter a sequence. So basically...I agree with you 100%...we<BR>need a good process. But the best process is still stymied if we have to <BR>push it through an AMA rule change
cycle.<BR><BR>As it stands now, a rule change submitted in October of this year...wouldn't<BR>have a chance of being included in the rules until January of 2011. I find<BR>that to be absurd...but that's the guideline that the AMA has in place. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div
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