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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Rex,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The half cuban needs to be fairly large to accommodate the
2/2 pt roll on the 45 degree downline at the end of it. Make it too small and
you'll either be right on the deck for the start of the next maneuver or worse.
It's going to take about 1/4 of the box to do it right. If you want to center
the 8 point roll right before it, that means you need to fly 1/4 of the way into
the box before you start the 8 point roll. It's just a bad combination of
maneuvers that won't work well together in the confines of the box. I'm sure
that's why FAI vertically tall and low box use maneuvers on each end of the 8
point roll in the P07 schedule. I like the schedule too, I just want to give the
8 point the room it needs.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Verne</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed
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<DIV>Derek</DIV>
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<DIV>I like the Proposed sequence the best... I probably won't be
flying it, but I will be judging it. I personally don't think
having </DIV>
<DIV>the half cuban after the 8 point is that big of deal. It just
forces the pilot to be in the proper position to execute that string of </DIV>
<DIV>three manuevers. As we all know, Positioning is
everything... The down humpty and the inverted 4 point roll is a nice
variation of revisited manuevers. Personally, I think the proposed
sequence flows a little better than the "A" sequence.</DIV>
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<DIV>Rex</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:26
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed
Masters Sequence for 2009/2010</DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Over the past couple of months we (the NSRCA
board) have received a number of comments about the Masters sequence that
was selected in 2005. We heard that the sequence had too many snaps,
turnaround maneuvers did not allow positioning of the plane (in or out)
after the 5th maneuver, and that the difficulty level from Advanced to
Masters was further increased. There was also an error in the schedule
in that one would come out of the Double Immelman (#10) inverted and head
into the Humpty Bump (pull-push-pull) and head into the ground based on the
description. The Masters schedule was published in the July 2005 issue
of the K-Factor (Option A on page 25) - in order to correct the error,
maneuver #9 was modifed to a 1/2 Square Loop with 1/2 Roll Down instead of
the 1/2 Square Loop with 2/2 Pt Roll Down.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>The board felt that the original Masters sequence
committee should revisit the schedule to look it over and perhaps make
modifications. The original committee was Troy Newman (chair), Ed Alt,
Dave Lockhart, Joe Lachoswki, Arch Stafford and Bob Pastorello. Bob
dropped out since he no longer flies pattern. Troy and the team
started working on it but Troy couldn't devote 100% of his time to it due to
the Nats approaching and his commitment to trying to make the US team.
Dave, Ed, Joe and Arch worked the sequence but decided that it would take
too much modification to correct. Instead they came up with a revised
schedule that the board felt was a worthy replacement. The board would
like to submit this schedule to the Contest Board to be considered as a
replacement for the original schedule.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>What do we need from everyone? We'd like to
get your opinion on the sequence that was selected in 2005 and the new
schedule that was created by the sequence committee to address the issues
that were raised by a number of pilots.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here is the sequence that was selected:</FONT>
</P>
<P align=center> <U><B> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>2009 Masters 404 Option
A
<BR>
</FONT></B></U><B> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>KF <BR></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>1 Takeoff
Sequence
1 <BR>2
Stall Turn, 1-1/4 Roll Up, 1-1/4 Positive Snap down
5 <BR>3
Top-Hat with 1/4 Rolls, Exit INV
2 <BR>4
Cuban 8 with Full Rolls, Exit INV
4 <BR>5
Humpty Bump, with options (1/2's or 1/4's up and Down to Exit Upright)
2 <BR>6
Avalanche, 1-1/2 snap roll, Exit INV
4 <BR>7
1/2 Square Loop on Corner (1/2 Diamond Loop)
2 <BR>8
Eight-Sided Outside Loop from top
4 <BR>9
1/2 Square Loop, 1/2pt Roll down
2 <BR>10
Double Immelman, Full Rolls
4 <BR>11
Humpty Bump (pull-push-pull), Full Roll up, 1/2 Roll
down
3 <BR>12
8pt Roll
4 <BR>13
Stall Turn, Full Roll up
2 <BR>14
Two Loops with 1/2 Rolls on top
4 <BR>15
1/2 Reverse Cuban 8 with 2/4pt Roll up
2 <BR>16
Two 2/2pt Rolls Reversed
4 <BR>17
Immelman Turn
2 <BR>18 45
degree down, 1-1/2 Positive Snap, Exit INV
3 <BR>19
1/2 Cuban 8, Exit INV
2 <BR>20
Triangle Loop with Snap Roll on top, Exit INV
4 <BR>21
1/2 Square Loop
1 <BR>22
Two 2-turn spins, Reversed
4 <BR>23
Landing
1 <BR>
Total 66 <BR></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here is the new sequence that was created by the
sequence committee:</FONT> </P>
<P> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>Proposed 2009-2010 Masters Sequence</FONT>
<BR>
<BR><FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>No.</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>Kf</FONT> <BR>
<BR><FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>1</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>Takeoff</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>(U)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>1</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>2</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Half Clover , with 2/4 pt roll up, 1/2 roll
down</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(U)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>4</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>3</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Humpty bump, 2/4 pt. roll
up</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>(T)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>2</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>4</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Eight point
roll</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(D)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>4</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>5</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>1/2 Cuban 8, 2/2 pt.
Roll</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(T)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>2</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>6</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Avalanche with 1-1/2 snap, INV entry
(from bottom)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(U)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>4</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>7</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Half square loop on corner w/ 1/2
rolls</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>(T)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>2</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>8</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Eight sided loop from top, INV
entry</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>(D)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>4</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>9</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Reverse Humpty Bump w/Options from top(1/2
or 1/4 rolls up and down)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(T)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>3</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>10</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>45 degree down with 1-1/2 snap
roll</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>(U)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>3</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>11</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Stall turn, half rolls, INV
entry</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(T)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>2</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>12</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Four point roll, INV
entry</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>(D)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>4</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>13</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Humpty Bump(push,pull,pull), 2/4 pt. Roll
Up, 1/2 Roll Down, INV entry</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>(T)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>3</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>14</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Figure-M , with 3/4
Rolls</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(U)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>5</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>15</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Top Hat w/ 1/4
Rolls</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>(T)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>2</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>16</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Two 2/2 pt. rolls
reversed</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>(D)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>4</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>17</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Immelmann Turn</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(T)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>2</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>18</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Hour Glass( MID entry, top first) 2/4
pt roll down</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(U)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>5</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>19</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Figure 9 from middle (INV entry, top
first)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>(T)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>1</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>20</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Double Immelmann with Full
Rolls</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(D)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>3</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>21</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Half Square Loop with 2/2 pt. roll
up</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>(T)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>2</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>22</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>2-1/2 Turn Spin, INV entry, upright
exit</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(U)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>3</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>23</FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Landing</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2>(U)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
color=#000000
size=2>1</FONT> <BR>
<BR>
<FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>TOTAL</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>66</FONT> <BR></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Hopefully the above is legible… please let
me know your thoughts.</FONT>
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