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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>We used to have that in a class called Expert, but too
many CD's were eating trophy's for lack of contestants. I've developed schedules
before and know exactly what you were dealing with. My personal opinion is that
you did it as well as it can be done within the parameters. I'm not a big fan of
changing the schedules below masters if they're teaching the lessons to be
learned. The schedules below masters aren't and shouldn't be designed for
someone to camp there. The goal is to learn what you need on your way to masters
or fai with the realization that there will still be plenty more to learn once
you get there. I like Jon Lowe's idea of flying the schedule upside down if
you're bored. You'll quickly find that the only part of that that gets tricky,
and sometimes dicey, are the rolling maneuvers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Verne</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=phelps15@comcast.net href="mailto:phelps15@comcast.net">Bill
Pritchett</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:14
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA
Sequences</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Verne-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks! So ...... is it possible to keep
that Sportsman schedule and change Intermediate on a pretty regular basis and
still address the process of preparation??? I think it is.... I'm
of the opinion that there is nothing wrong with someone flying Intermediate
year after year if that addresses their interest, preparation, and
skill level. Ideally, all sequences would prepare for the next
level. The difficulty in addressing this in the Advanced/Masters
situation is that Advanced needs to be the step up from Intermediate and
Masters needs to be challenging enough to address the many flyers that don't
go on to FAI <STRONG>and yet</STRONG>, prepare Masters pilots for
FAI! It's really a very complicated domino effect. In looking
at all the schedules, it appears to me that we are missing a class
between Advanced and Masters.....used to be between Intermediate
and Advanced..... that's the educator in me talking. Using
the four AMA classes, it's really difficult to have the nice step we have now
from Sportsman to Intermediate at all levels....... it is, however, with
exchanges like we're having now, possible!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pritch</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=verne@twmi.rr.com href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">Verne Koester</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA
Sequences</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bill,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>My personal opinion from the judges chair is that you
guys created the best Sportsman schedule we've ever had. It's the only one
I've ever seen since we went to all-turnaround that prepares a new pilot for
the next step. Just my opinion.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Verne</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=phelps15@comcast.net href="mailto:phelps15@comcast.net">Bill
Pritchett</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:01
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] AMA
Sequences</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As a member of Troy's committee a couple
years ago, allow me to share the following thoughts:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-yes, we need to eliminate the 2 year rule
and give ourselves the option of changing AMA event schedules as we
desire;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-yes, the jump is bigger now from Advanced to
Masters. At the time, the overwhelming opinion was that the jump
used to be too big to Advanced from Intermediate;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-yes, the lower classes need to change as
well as Masters. I could possibly be convinced that Sportsman stay
the same, but if we want to include an element of NSRCA retention into
this thread, then the needs of the flyer that doesn't practice much, have
the "right" equipment, etc. should be able to come to a few contests a
year in Intermediate, have fun, and go on.... In order for that
person to maintain interest, the schedule for Intermediate would need to
be changed as well. For those "moving through" the lower classes,
this isn't an issue since it's new to them anyway, regardless of the
schedule. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-yes, the place to start with this would be
at the EC level of AMA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pritch</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">Derek Koopowitz</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:48
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010</DIV>
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<DIV>Since the majority of the contest board are active pattern pilots,
perhaps we can petition the AMA EC (thru Steve Kaluf) to discuss these
concerns so that we can then put in a proposal to have the sequences
removed. I'm in full agreement with what is being discussed with
regard to the time frames - it is not conducive to allowing the SIGs
that modify/add rules/sequences to do it within a time frame that
benefits our members. <BR><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 7/26/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Mark
Atwood</B> <<A
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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Ed,<BR><BR>Not trying to argue a moot point, but you commented that
"even if it does<BR>take 2 years, it really doesn't have
to"... That's the part I think you're
<BR>missing.<BR><BR>Even IF we could create, test,survey and decide on
a new sequence in a<BR>DAY...the AMA REQUIRES it 2 years in advance of
it being flown.<BR><BR>So the solution we are offering is to remove
the sequences as part of the <BR>"Rules"...that would allow us to use
a process as you describe to<BR>efficiently alter a
sequence. So basically...I agree with you 100%...we<BR>need
a good process. But the best process is still stymied if we
have to <BR>push it through an AMA rule change cycle.<BR><BR>As it
stands now, a rule change submitted in October of this
year...wouldn't<BR>have a chance of being included in the rules until
January of 2011. I find<BR>that to be absurd...but that's
the guideline that the AMA has in place. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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