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<DIV><FONT size=2>Ron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>what would you call it when the membership votes for or
against something like this sequence and the Board changes its mind. This would
not be considered doing as it pleases?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Oh wait you were one of the people that submitted the change
for Takeoff and landings to go to 0 or 10 a couple years ago. At the same time
the membership of the NSRCA overwhelmingly wanted it left the way it was.
This was done while you were NSRCA VP and while the membership voted in
a survey to keep it the way it was. We all know that the membership then
created an uprising and it was changed back this year. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Was this a case of an NSRCA board member doing something
against the wishes of the membership or am I mistaken?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Ron did you sign the rule proposal for changing Takeoff
and Landing or not? According to the records at AMA you were one of the 3 AMA
members to make the proposal. When you signed this proposal did you remember
that the membership's vote had been published in the KF just a month before
the deadline to submit your proposal? Since you as an officer and member of the
board did not do as you pleased on this issue, what would you call doing this in
direction contravention to a member vote?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I suspect that this is what has people like me a little
fired up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The membership voted on a sequence for masters 2009. They
had two choices and they chose one. A select few people obviously don't like the
choice so now Derek is asking for a new vote? Doesn't this sound like we are
asking the membership for a new opinion and that opinion is going to be internet
related and not a reflection of the NSRCA membership like the Kfactor published
survey was.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>By the way the sequence works. I just went through it with my
stick plane. The Humpty with options in #5 says 1/2 rolls or 1/4 rolls up and
down. So this version would be 1/2 roll up and 1/2 roll down or 1/4 roll up and
1/4 roll down. Doing this the sequence works 100% and can be flown as written.
In fact I like it and voted for it at the time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Wayne</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=vanputte@cox.net href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van Putte</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:06
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed
Masters Sequence for 2009/2010</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span>I'm getting fed up with the people
who claim that the NSRCA board does whatever it pleases, damn the
constituents. There might be those who would try to placate those who
complain, but I've never been politically correct and not about to start
now. </SPAN>
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<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span>What "current political climate" is being
referred to here? Let's get it out in the open so we can talk about it
like big boys.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span>Also, what's with this "NSRCA just decides
what it wants to do and does it"? Who is being referred to? Be
specific.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span>And what's with "Wasn't the idea of filling
out a survey with 2007 and 2009 masters sequences on it the idea to jump ahead
of the cycle and get it done way before hand." I assume the writer wants
us to propose a maneuver sequence that is impossible to perform. Or
maybe he'd like to show us how it's done the way it's written.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>The comment, "Apparently the work done last time once praised as good is
now old news and the powers that be need to make a new legacy for
themselves." I think it's time that the writer run for district VP
and show the rest of the board how it's supposed to be done.</DIV>
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<DIV>End of rant for now.</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>Ron Van Putte</DIV>
<DIV>NSRCA VP</DIV>
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<DIV>On Jul 26, 2007, at 5:41 PM, Wayne wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV><FONT size=2>John,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>there seems to be a tone to the current political climate.
NSRCA management determined they know better than the membership who voted
for something. And then there is the other issues regarding the NSRCA's high
road, holy above all sanctioning activities.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Obviously history is written by the winners. Its too bad
that NSRCA just decides what it wants to do and does it. I thought it used
to be a democratic society. A vote of the membership meant this was
direction the Board should take. Apparently when you don't like the vote you
just take another one. After all this is what the dems tried to do in
Florida.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Wasn't the idea of filling out a survey with 2007 and 2009
masters sequences on it the idea to jump ahead of the cycle and get it done
way before hand. Yet it seems the NSRCA management has undermined the work
of a few in order to write history in favor of another few who complain
loudly enough. Funny how the majority of people writing the new sequence are
all from the same area of the country. This is fair and
balanced.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I think you are right John. Pattern in the NSRCA has
reached critical mass why would anyone want to come play with
us. Having known people involved and in this case Troy, I doubt
seriously he stopped working on this do to not having 100% of his time
available for the re-write. I bet the real story will come out someday. Some
people have morals and ethics and others well they write the history
books.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Apparently the work done last time once praised as good is
now old news and the powers that be need to make a new legacy for
themselves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Wayne</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=johnferrell@earthlink.net
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">John Ferrell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I (and others I think) got pretty bored with
practicing the same old stuff. While I took a break I developed enough
minor health problems to keep me side lined indefinitely. Others found
other things to do. D2 attendance is now below critical mass.
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the choice is to hurry to Masters or quit
playing then I suppose I need to just do the best I can with Masters and
let it go at that!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It really doesn't matter, the rules are made
by individuals who have the political clout not the governing committees.
Whoever controls the agenda has veto power and anonymity. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell W8CCW<BR>"Life is easier if you learn
to plow <BR> around the stumps"<BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=atwoodm@paragon-inc.com
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">Mark Atwood</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:45
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Hear hear.<BR><BR>I’m not generally a proponent
of changing the lower classes all the time (the intent is that they not
be destination classes...I also know the reality of that so please, no
hate mail) But I’m a HUGE HUGE HUGE fan of being ABLE to change them
every year...i.e. Removing the patterns from the AMA rulebook and
allowing the Sig to post the schedules that will be in effect in a given
year.<BR><BR>I think you’ll find ALL of the contest board members would
vote “Yea” for that if they ever got the chance to...<BR><BR>The
advantages are so many I can’t even begin to list
them.<BR><BR>-M<BR><BR><BR>On 7/26/07 8:37 AM, "John Ferrell" <<A
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT face=Arial>Are you
certain that you really can change the schedule without waiting out
the rules cycle?<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>The lower
classes had to endure 6 years of the same schedule because the Contest
Board refused to act on anything other than emergency proposals in the
interim. Many of the Advanced flyers elected just to stand down.
<BR></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial>You have just pointed to advantage the IMAC discipline has
over Pattern with AMA...<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>I hope
you can pull it off because the existing conditions are detrimental to
the game.<BR></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>John
Ferrell W8CCW<BR>"Life is easier if you learn to
plow <BR> around the
stumps"<BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR></FONT></SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>----- Original Message -----
<BR> <BR><B>From:</B> Derek Koopowitz <A
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com"><mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com></A>
<BR> <BR><B>To:</B> 'NSRCA Mailing List' <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></A>
<BR> <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:26
PM<BR> <BR><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed
Masters Sequence for
2009/2010<BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial>Over the past couple of months we (the NSRCA board)
have received a number of comments about the Masters sequence
that was selected in 2005. We heard that the sequence
had too many snaps, turnaround maneuvers did not allow
positioning of the plane (in or out) after the 5th maneuver,
and that the difficulty level from Advanced to Masters was
further increased. There was also an error in the
schedule in that one would come out of the Double Immelman
(#10) inverted and head into the Humpty Bump (pull-push-pull)
and head into the ground based on the description. The
Masters schedule was published in the July 2005 issue of the
K-Factor (Option A on page 25) - in </FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial">lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR></FONT></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN
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