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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Verne-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks! So ...... is it possible to keep that
Sportsman schedule and change Intermediate on a pretty regular basis and still
address the process of preparation??? I think it is.... I'm of the
opinion that there is nothing wrong with someone flying Intermediate year after
year if that addresses their interest, preparation, and
skill level. Ideally, all sequences would prepare for the next
level. The difficulty in addressing this in the Advanced/Masters situation
is that Advanced needs to be the step up from Intermediate and Masters needs to
be challenging enough to address the many flyers that don't go on to FAI
<STRONG>and yet</STRONG>, prepare Masters pilots for FAI! It's really
a very complicated domino effect. In looking at all the schedules,
it appears to me that we are missing a class between Advanced and
Masters.....used to be between Intermediate and Advanced..... that's
the educator in me talking. Using the four AMA classes, it's really
difficult to have the nice step we have now from Sportsman to Intermediate at
all levels....... it is, however, with exchanges like we're having now,
possible!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pritch</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=verne@twmi.rr.com href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">Verne Koester</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA
Sequences</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bill,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>My personal opinion from the judges chair is that you
guys created the best Sportsman schedule we've ever had. It's the only one
I've ever seen since we went to all-turnaround that prepares a new pilot for
the next step. Just my opinion.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Verne</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=phelps15@comcast.net href="mailto:phelps15@comcast.net">Bill
Pritchett</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:01
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] AMA
Sequences</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As a member of Troy's committee a couple years
ago, allow me to share the following thoughts:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-yes, we need to eliminate the 2 year rule and
give ourselves the option of changing AMA event schedules as we
desire;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-yes, the jump is bigger now from Advanced to
Masters. At the time, the overwhelming opinion was that the jump used
to be too big to Advanced from Intermediate;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-yes, the lower classes need to change as well
as Masters. I could possibly be convinced that Sportsman stay the
same, but if we want to include an element of NSRCA retention into this
thread, then the needs of the flyer that doesn't practice much, have the
"right" equipment, etc. should be able to come to a few contests a year in
Intermediate, have fun, and go on.... In order for that person to
maintain interest, the schedule for Intermediate would need to be changed as
well. For those "moving through" the lower classes, this isn't an
issue since it's new to them anyway, regardless of the schedule.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-yes, the place to start with this would be at
the EC level of AMA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pritch</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">Derek Koopowitz</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:48
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010</DIV>
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<DIV>Since the majority of the contest board are active pattern pilots,
perhaps we can petition the AMA EC (thru Steve Kaluf) to discuss these
concerns so that we can then put in a proposal to have the sequences
removed. I'm in full agreement with what is being discussed with
regard to the time frames - it is not conducive to allowing the SIGs that
modify/add rules/sequences to do it within a time frame that benefits our
members. <BR><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 7/26/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Mark
Atwood</B> <<A
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hey
Ed,<BR><BR>Not trying to argue a moot point, but you commented that
"even if it does<BR>take 2 years, it really doesn't have
to"... That's the part I think you're
<BR>missing.<BR><BR>Even IF we could create, test,survey and decide on a
new sequence in a<BR>DAY...the AMA REQUIRES it 2 years in advance of it
being flown.<BR><BR>So the solution we are offering is to remove the
sequences as part of the <BR>"Rules"...that would allow us to use a
process as you describe to<BR>efficiently alter a
sequence. So basically...I agree with you 100%...we<BR>need a
good process. But the best process is still stymied if we
have to <BR>push it through an AMA rule change cycle.<BR><BR>As it
stands now, a rule change submitted in October of this
year...wouldn't<BR>have a chance of being included in the rules until
January of 2011. I find<BR>that to be absurd...but that's the
guideline that the AMA has in place. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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