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<DIV>I am sure that you guys put floats on those pattern planes already. You don't want to miss a single chance to go and practice.</DIV>
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<DIV>I hope that you and your family are OK after all that rain.</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks Dave….glad to see my buddy is taking care of me.:) Can you swim back and loan me your copy????:)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Chris…..I just swam by your house and you can forgedabout that magazine….the mailbox is flooded!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B><st1:PersonName w:st="on">White, Chris</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:16 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MA Pattern column....(re: moving on...)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I miss Eric’s MA column…. Where’s our pattern exposure in the AMA mag? We have many good people involved who have helped a lot of us learn and enjoy our hobby. We can’t afford to build walls between each other. I’m not a current NSRCA member, but only because my life has limited my involvement at the present. I will participate all I can because I enjoy few things more than flying with other competitors, and admiring their skills whether it be writing, R&D, flying, building, coaching, or just hangar flying. (Pattern flyers are a most helpful group of competitors!)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Lisa & Larry<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:53 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Going forward.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For Eric…Although I understand what you are stating and realize I don’t have all the facts, I must wonder how this thread has helped grow pattern. Eric, I’m not talking about you even though this is your ID. How many potential pattern guys have now turned away because of this thread? It’s an ugly black eye and I don’t appreciate this forum being used for this purpose. But now the cats out of the bag, let’s deal with it fairly.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For the NSRCA Board….I would like to see where this was addressed in the past board meeting minutes. I would like to know where this can be reviewed. If not, I request a copy of the minutes to be mailed to me at my present address. I would like to know what authority a SIG has to sanction a paying AMA member from participating in an AMA national event even as a judge. At what point did the NSRCA Board discuss this with the AMA Competition Board? If not at all it’s nothing less than a lynching and the board members responsible for this should resign immediately. Eric is an AMA member first. The NATS is an AMA event First. I would agree that the CD, with input from the NSRCA Board, could recommend sanctions to the AMA on behalf of a written protest.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">With this being said, if in fact there is rules clearly stated and the NSRCA had the authority and acted in those rules let me know and I will apologize. I would like to know where it is written.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Rules that actually state in the AMA rules book. The pilot or anyone on his behalf can’t confront the judge. This violation is sufficient to result in disqualification of the pilot from this event. See General Competition Rules page 12 of 12 under General, Section 8.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In the General Competition Rules it also outlines the rules for Protest, See General Competition Rules page 9 of 12 under Sanctioned Events, Section 18. I will assume that at a Nationals event, the CD followed these rules. They should have been followed to the letter regardless of the NSRCA’s position. The CD is an AMA representative and acts on the AMA’s behalf. No influence by the NSRCA should have impaired the protester’s right or the rights of the person being protested.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Grow Pattern<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, June 24, 2007 8:41 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [NSRCA-discussion] Going forward.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Please understand that I wrote about what had happened to me for a reason greater than personal vindication. There is a fundamental problem with sponsorship, contestant judging, and the management/development of judges.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(<EM><I><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can’t address the information given to the Don Lowe Masters or the attempt to remove me from Model Aviation reporting unless I do something and subpoena the records of the NSRCA board, their e-mail their appointee’s mail. To go “legal” on the NSRCA would just be ugly, damaging to all and exhaust what little NSRCA money there is in the bank. That is <U>not </U>my agenda).</SPAN></FONT></I></EM></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can address how I was processed by the NSRCA as regards allegations of biased judging. I can’t do much about what happened to me, but I can do something about the next guy. <STRONG><B><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So can you. (After all, it could be you.)</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">First of all, the NSRCA needs to amend its charter to state that it is a ruling body on judging resources. Then update the bylaws to cover the related process. There is an NSRCA bylaw on how to do this and it involves all of you, the NSRCA membership, voting on a proposed change.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Secondly, the AMA has a pretty good disciplinary process that the NSRCA could incorporate to deal with judging infractions. It tells the accused what they have been charged with and allows the accused to present their case. There is even an appeal process if the member does not agree with the decision or the punishment.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">With the bylaws as they are, I consider the NSRCA board to have acted illegally and to not have given me a chance to challenge their evidence BEFORE they met and passed their sentence. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Most importantly, the NSRCA needs to revamp its judging training. They now need to add performance evaluation to allow us to know how well we are performing as a judge. Maybe we need to be rated as to what we can judge. e.g. which class we can cover etc. We should be tested before--not just accused after!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">By NSRCA board voting, I will be eligible to judge pattern in 2009. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Please consider this for a moment.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am sitting in the judge’s chair and I see a zero spin entry, no stall etc. I think for a moment as the rest of the spin is being executed. Hmmm?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-What if the other judges all saw that as a valid spin entry? </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-What should I do? If I am out of the norm, I will be in trouble <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">again</SPAN></I>, </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-They will be watching. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-It would take only one pilot to complain and I would be toast….</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-A small trickle of sweat runs down my back. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-The clock is ticking.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-Oh no! My confidence as a judge is shot. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-I freeze.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-I chicken out and give a 6.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Well, I need not worry because they will never pick me to judge again. But they will pick YOU!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My thanks for the off-list encouragement. I will keep your identity confidential. I understand that you cannot post on the discussion-list. I know that it is intimidating when this could affect your results down the line. It is supposed to be a discussion-list about everything that affects pattern. That is, unless your president tell you to not do so!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am sorry I blitzed the discussion-list with long notes but, you guys know me--I write and this is what happens when I do </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Got to get back to the real world again.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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