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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks Dave….glad to see my buddy is
taking care of me.:) Can you swim back and loan me your copy????:)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Palatino><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Palatino;color:navy'>Chris </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>k6xyz<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:41
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MA
Pattern column....(re: moving on...)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>Chris…..I
just swam by your house and you can forgedabout that magazine….the
mailbox is flooded!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>Regards<br>
<br>
Dave Harmon<br>
NSRCA 586<br>
K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net<br>
Sperry, Ok.</span></font><font color=blue><span style='color:blue'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st="on">White, Chris</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:16
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MA
Pattern column....(re: moving on...)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks Fred….
Mine will probably be in the mailbox today</span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
color:navy'>J</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Chris</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Fred Huber<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:19
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MA
Pattern column....(re: moving on...)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Just received my MA yesterday.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>RC Aerobatics. Eric Henderson. pg 104</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:chris@ssd.fsi.com" title="chris@ssd.fsi.com">White, Chris</a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday,
June 28, 2007 7:22 AM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] MA Pattern column....(re: moving on...)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sorry…for some odd
reason I haven’t got that issue yet. Strange because MA never runs
late for me. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks…. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Chris</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><a
href="mailto:srca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">srca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Michael Ramsey<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 27, 2007
5:01 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MA
Pattern column....(re: moving on...)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><em><i><font size=3 color=navy
face="Century Gothic"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic";
color:navy'>Chris:</span></font></i></em><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><em><i><font size=3 color=navy
face="Century Gothic"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic";
color:navy'>You did check the July 2007 issue for Eric's column right?</span></font></i></em><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->Michael
Ramsey</span></font> <br>
<font size=1 color=black face="Century Gothic"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:"Century Gothic";color:black'>Associate Editor, Model Aviation</span></font>
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<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><font size=1 face="Century Gothic"><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"'>5161 East Memorial Drive</span></font></st1:Street>
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<font size=1 face="Century Gothic"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:
"Century Gothic"'>765-287-1256 x.223</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">White, Chris</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 25, 2007 9:43
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion] MA
Pattern column....(re: moving on...)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I miss Eric’s MA
column…. Where’s our pattern exposure in the AMA mag? We have
many good people involved who have helped a lot of us learn and enjoy our
hobby. We can’t afford to build walls between each other. I’m
not a current NSRCA member, but only because my life has limited my involvement
at the present. I will participate all I can because I enjoy few things
more than flying with other competitors, and admiring their skills whether it
be writing, R&D, flying, building, coaching, or just hangar flying.
(Pattern flyers are a most helpful group of competitors!)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I hope (sooner than
later) that feelings will heal, procedures will be corrected if needed, and
people will learn from any mistakes they or others may have made. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In the meantime, I would
like to thank all the guys who have helped so many of us in columns they write
in magazines or this discussion. (risking criticism etc) I admire all
these guys for something they’ve done. Danny Landis, Dave Lockhart, Eric
Henderson. You guys have all made contributions….please
continue. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sincerely, </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Chris White<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lisa & Larry<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:53
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Going forward.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Few things come to mind
on this…</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For Eric…Although I
understand what you are stating and realize I don’t have all the facts, I
must wonder how this thread has helped grow pattern. Eric, I’m not
talking about you even though this is your ID. How many potential pattern guys
have now turned away because of this thread? It’s an ugly black eye and I
don’t appreciate this forum being used for this purpose. But now the cats
out of the bag, let’s deal with it fairly.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For the NSRCA
Board….I would like to see where this was addressed in the past board
meeting minutes. I would like to know where this can be reviewed. If not, I
request a copy of the minutes to be mailed to me at my present address. I would
like to know what authority a SIG has to sanction a paying AMA member from
participating in an AMA national event even as a judge. At what point did the
NSRCA Board discuss this with the AMA Competition Board? If not at all
it’s nothing less than a lynching and the board members responsible for
this should resign immediately. Eric is an AMA member first. The NATS is an AMA
event First. I would agree that the CD, with input from the NSRCA Board, could
recommend sanctions to the AMA on behalf of a written protest.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would be interested in
what Dave Brown and the AMA Competition Board has to say…</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With this being said, if
in fact there is rules clearly stated and the NSRCA had the authority and acted
in those rules let me know and I will apologize. I would like to know where it
is written.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rules that actually state
in the AMA rules book. The pilot or anyone on his behalf can’t confront
the judge. This violation is sufficient to result in disqualification of the
pilot from this event. See General Competition Rules page 12 of 12 under General,
Section 8.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In the General
Competition Rules it also outlines the rules for Protest, See General
Competition Rules page 9 of 12 under Sanctioned Events, Section 18. I will
assume that at a Nationals event, the CD followed these rules. They should have
been followed to the letter regardless of the NSRCA’s position. The CD is
an AMA representative and acts on the AMA’s behalf. No influence by the
NSRCA should have impaired the protester’s right or the rights of the
person being protested.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would like the NSRCA
Board President to respond regarding the AMA Protest Rules and how they were
followed to the letter in this case as well as any sanction for an individual
confronting a judge regarding a pilots scores.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Larry Diamond</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>AMA 5024</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Grow Pattern<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, June 24, 2007 8:41
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion] Going
forward.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Please understand that I wrote about
what had happened to me for a reason greater than personal vindication.
There is a fundamental problem with sponsorship, contestant judging, and the
management/development of judges.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(<em><i><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>I can’t address the information given to the
Don Lowe Masters or the attempt to remove me from Model Aviation reporting
unless I do something and subpoena the records of the NSRCA board, their e-mail
their appointee’s mail. To go “legal” on the NSRCA would just
be ugly, damaging to all and exhaust what little NSRCA money there is in the
bank. That is <u>not </u>my agenda).</span></font></i></em></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I can address how I was processed by
the NSRCA as regards allegations of biased judging. I can’t do much about
what happened to me, but I can do something about the next guy. <strong><b><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>So can you. (After all, it could be
you.)</span></font></b></strong></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>First of all, the NSRCA needs to
amend its charter to state that it is a ruling body on judging resources. Then
update the bylaws to cover the related process. There is an NSRCA bylaw on how
to do this and it involves all of you, the NSRCA membership, voting on a
proposed change.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Secondly, the AMA has a pretty good
disciplinary process that the NSRCA could incorporate to deal with judging
infractions. It tells the accused what they have been charged with and allows
the accused to present their case. There is even an appeal process if the
member does not agree with the decision or the punishment.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We all deserve a fair trial and the
right to face our accuser(s) or the accusation(s).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>With the bylaws as they are, I
consider the NSRCA board to have acted illegally and to not have given me a
chance to challenge their evidence BEFORE they met and passed their
sentence. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Most importantly, the NSRCA needs to
revamp its judging training. They now need to add performance evaluation to
allow us to know how well we are performing as a judge. Maybe we need to be
rated as to what we can judge. e.g. which class we can cover etc. We should be
tested before--not just accused after!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>By NSRCA board voting, I will be
eligible to judge pattern in 2009. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Please consider this for a moment.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am sitting in the judge’s
chair and I see a zero spin entry, no stall etc. I think for a moment as the
rest of the spin is being executed. Hmmm?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-What if the other judges all saw
that as a valid spin entry? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-What should I do? If I am out of
the norm, I will be in trouble <i><span style='font-style:italic'>again</span></i>,
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-They will be watching. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-It would take only one pilot to
complain and I would be toast….</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-A small trickle of sweat runs down
my back. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-The clock is ticking.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-Oh no! My confidence as a judge is
shot. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-I freeze.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-I chicken out and give a 6.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Well, I need not worry because they will
never pick me to judge again. But they will pick YOU!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My thanks for the off-list
encouragement. I will keep your identity confidential. I understand that you
cannot post on the discussion-list. I know that it is intimidating when this
could affect your results down the line. It is supposed to be a discussion-list
about everything that affects pattern. That is, unless your president tell you
to not do so!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I really thank the two NSRCA board
members who had the courage to let me know that the NSRCA board was trying to
have me removed from writing the column and that they are currently planning to
take me off the list. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am sorry I blitzed the
discussion-list with long notes but, you guys know me--I write and this is what
happens when I do </span></font><font face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:
Wingdings'>J</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Got to get back to the real world
again.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Good luck everybody and best
regards,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Eric--Exiting the box!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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