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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>LOL you ain't kiddin Tommy!!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=tretas513@yahoo.com href="mailto:tretas513@yahoo.com">Tommy
Scarmardo</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 22, 2007 4:08 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Airplane
Weight Limits</DIV>
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<DIV>If we are going to change the rules because our airplanes have gotten too
expensive</DIV>
<DIV>man...have I got a list of things we can change.<BR><BR><B><I>DwayneNancy
<<A
href="mailto:dwaynenancy@suddenlink.net">dwaynenancy@suddenlink.net</A>></I></B>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just think, 30
years ago the average modeler could afford to fly Class III. Of course
if he wanted to he could fly Class I or II. Everyone thought retracts
would cost too much but the average modeler found a way to have them too.
It was a lot of fun with your “every day” plane, one that did not need
to be pampered from lack of use but flown all the time. Remember back
then, you only had one radio and one airplane. The second airplane was
on the bench being built or being “research” so it could be built for next
year. Vintage Pattern or the Senior Pattern Association is trying to
get the average modeler back to pattern but today he has too many choices,
too many roads to be traveled and only so much time. Do you remember
the times when all pattern contests had 50 to 70 entrants? I do.
But I can’t live in the past, too many roads are now open and I’ve got to
have a radio for each pathway. The average modeler wants to try all
the different venues. Again, remember 30 years ago all that was
available was Class I, II, III or Scale. The average modeler just flew
his sport planes be they pattern type or scale. How many of you have
seen a Galloping Ghost airplane fly? But, I digress.
Sorry. Dwayne</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Dave Lockhart<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, June 22, 2007 9:54
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'NSRCA Mailing
List'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ron /
John,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Point
taken. And no offense, but so what? As a kid, I was never the
biggest guy on the playing fields……but I loved to play anyway and never
asked for a head start, an extra kick, or an extra swing. I’m still
not the “biggest kid”, and some of the most fun I’ve had was whooping up on
the “superior” equipment back when I couldn’t afford the latest greatest
Skippy Propnut TurboZoot 9000 XL MkVII Touring edition limited SE with the
add-ons.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The
average guy can’t afford many things…..like the Naruke edition Astral flown
by McMurtry at the 2006 NATs? Or even the Oxai version…..or even the
Xtreme version.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Your
argument could be extended to many things…….2C vs 4C (as if you could get a
consensus on which is “better”)………..analog vs digital servos………….guys flying
electrics w/ NIcd or Nimh because they can’t afford lipos………and on an
on.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Pattern competition
is a competitive event with some broad limits (weight, size, noise).
You have your choices, you pick what is most competitive for your available
budget, you practice, you compete. You win, or you
lose.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you
/ John don’t think electric is competitive under the current rules, fly
glow.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Others
think electric is competitive and are flying electric.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Again,
electric is in its infancy……make a rule now that favors electrics and you
will ensure unquestionable electric dominance in the very near future.
Just remember the 120 4C….it was to allow parity between a piped 60 2C and
allow a quieter powerplant. Very shortsighted rule as the 120 4C
became dominant rapidly. Clearly the gap (if there is one) between
electric and glow today is nothing like the 2C / 4C gap was in ~1988 (when
2C 60s dominated 120 4Cs) or now (when a 120 4C dominates 60
2Cs).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">By
definition, the average guy will never be able to afford the highest level
setup. And that has never prevented something like a humble wooden
Focus from winning the NATs…..at any level.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ron Van Putte<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, June 22, 2007 10:27
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing
List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It is said that you can't understand a
person's problems until you've walked a mile in their shoes. John and I
didn't understand what the problems were regarding making weight with
electric-powered airplanes until he decided to compete with one. I am still
competing with a glow-powered Focus.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John's airplane is under 5 Kg, but not
by much. Due to an extensive weight-saving building job on his Black Magic
by Mike Hester and John's careful selection and installation of radio,
batteries, ESC, prop, motor, spinner, et al, his airplane is OK with weight,
even in the kind of winds we often see at the Nats. He's thinking about the
guys who can't afford as much $$$ as he has invested in his setup. The
average guy probably can't build an electric-powered 2 meter airplane that
makes weight and is competitive with the kind of budget required for a
glow-powered version of the same airplane. </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The learning curve is very steep.
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Jun 21, 2007, at 11:54 PM, Keith
Black wrote:</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I fly electric but
still would be against this proposal. </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John F. makes some
good points in his justification, however, I simply think that Dave's
counter points out "weigh" John's points.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think if you read
Dave's post with an open mind and not a pre-conceived "position" you feel
you have to protect you'll find his logic very compelling.
</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BTW, I find this
change of heart by you and John quite amusing. This is probably unfair but
it almost sounds as if one of you can't get your new e-plane to make weight
with the current rules. I'm sure that's not true, but from the outside it
certainly appears that way.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I hope the real
reason for "floating" this idea was to get people opinions. If so I'm
beginning to see a trend.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Keith
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Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:38 PM</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I was also not
aware that glow-powered airplanes needed the handicap they already have. I
agree that, with innovative design and $$$, electric-powered airplanes can
compete with glow-powered airplanes. The ones who suffer from the weight
inequity are those who can't afford the $$$ to overcome the weight
inequity. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Ron Van
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Jun 21,
2007, at 6:59 PM, John Ferrell wrote:</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I did not realize
that the Electrics were in need of a handicap. They seem to be doing just
fine against the recips under current rules. </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you really
think they need a little help by all means give them a rule book
boost!</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John Ferrell
W8CCW<BR>"Life is easier if you learn to plow <BR>around the stumps"<BR><A
href="http://dixienc.us/">http://DixieNC.US</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:44 PM</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">I just got this response from John
Fuqua.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: #0000fc">The guys are
missing the point. It is not about what can be achieved on weight. It is
what is permitted by the rules. They are not arguing the logic of what
the rules allow (in most cases) but examples of what has been achieved.
Please make that point. </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"> Ron Van Putte [<A
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2007 1:18 PM</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"> Fuqua John D Mr CTR
USAF 697 ARSF/EN</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Electric Weight Proposal Logic and
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