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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=796471715-22062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Flying style has got everything to do with how your plane
flies with electric as compared to a glow motor. We have flown in several
contests here in California where the wind is blowing in excess of 18mph and the
electric planes handle the wind equally, if not better, than the glow planes -
all due to the way the pilot flies the plane. I do think that we are
leading the pack over here in electric usage though - 50% of a pattern contest
is usually running electric and that runs through all the classes - not just the
upper classes. We have electric usage in Sportsman all the way to FAI -
and the planes are not expensive - these are run-of-the-mill planes available
from Tower/Horizon etc. and doing well. Flying style also dictates how
many mah you are using in your batteries as well. We have several FAI
pilots here that do not draw much more than 3600mah out of their packs on a full
P7 sequence in the wind and in little to no wind they are in the 2900
range.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=796471715-22062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I can only imagine how well my Impact would fly if it was
at 5kg instead of its almost 6kg - yes, this was a conversion from glow to
electric so there are a few "weighs" to save weight now.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jim
Woodward<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 22, 2007 7:59 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight
Limits<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I ditched those shoes
after Round 3 of last years nats – which was the 3<SUP>rd</SUP> in a row with so
much loss of power as to not be able to fly correct maneuver geometry.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">However – electric has
never been billed as “average-guy” pattern. If you decided to stray from
setups like those used by Dave, Chad, Jason, Jerry, Tony you will quickly find
yourself paying your way through an un-intended “R & D” circle. The
actual plane costs are going to be an after-thought compared to the price of all
the other components. Given the rapidly changing technology and reputation
for degraded packs after customer use or misuse, the resale market is
basically-nill. Also, it turns out that one person who bought my packs
from after the nats did so only to find out some of the cells were bad –
thankfully taken care of my the manufacturer to my knowledge (and apologies to
the buyer). The weight is really all about which batteries you use.
Are you selecting 3 lb packs or 2.5 lb packs… It does suck though when
restringing the rudder from 4-40 gear to 2-56 becomes your option to reduce
weight </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> . The one thing
I absolutely refused to do though was remove the wheel pants. Also, I
think remembering that the APC 20x15E was noticeably lighter than something like
the 21x14. I also bought small glow-motor AL spinner-hubs, and drilled
them out and tapped them to be used a the actual prop bolt, saving weight by not
using an actual prop bolt and spinner – of course no switch was used, just a
small 750 2-cell battery into a Jaaico regulator, into the receiver pack.
However, I think remembering that the TP5300’s were something like 2.5
lbs. With those I would have been comfortably under weight and had power
to spare for FAI – should I have managed them correctly and such (used luxury
items like spinners and switches).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think to fly electric
well in a longevity sense, you need to be even MORE “into” the power setup and
essentially become and electric-flight expert, than with the current glow
setups. It will be a difficult transition if you are not totally committed
to the E-systems nuisances through the full realm of equipment and charging
infrastructure. If you are not ready and enthused to become an E-expert,
the PIA factor will start to creep in and you’ll start to think about just
swinging an 18” prop on a glow setup. There is every bit the same need to
carry “spare” powertrain equipment with E as with Glow. Also, another
flyer in our area simply noted that for him, more flying-time was the key to
improvement regardless of the platform. Of course we all want the absolute
best flying plane and equipment we can get our hands on. As for my own
decisions and “way” for which I can get flying time in and such, it is more
“valuable” to simply fill up and fly. I felt for a while that in calm air
there was an advantage to the 20+ inch E-prop and that there was a perceived
“smoothness” gained with the E-setup. In retrospect if it is blowing past
10 mph that feeling is definitely gone and anything higher, etc….. etc. etc.,
but now way off topic….<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyway, just some of my
experience. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim
W.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ron Van Putte<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, June 22, 2007 10:27
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Airplane
Weight Limits</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It is said that you can't understand a person's problems
until you've walked a mile in their shoes. John and I didn't understand
what the problems were regarding making weight with electric-powered airplanes
until he decided to compete with one. I am still competing with a
glow-powered Focus.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John's airplane is under 5 Kg, but not by much.
Due to an extensive weight-saving building job on his Black Magic by Mike Hester
and John's careful selection and installation of radio, batteries, ESC, prop,
motor, spinner, et al, his airplane is OK with weight, even in the kind of winds
we often see at the Nats. He's thinking about the guys who can't afford as
much $$$ as he has invested in his setup. The average guy probably can't
build an electric-powered 2 meter airplane that makes weight and is competitive
with the kind of budget required for a glow-powered version of the same
airplane. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Ron Van Putte<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The learning curve is very
steep. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Jun 21, 2007, at 11:54 PM, Keith Black
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I fly electric but still would be
against this proposal. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John F. makes some good points in
his justification, however, I simply think that Dave's counter points out
"weigh" John's points.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think if you read Dave's post with
an open mind and not a pre-conceived "position" you feel you have to protect
you'll find his logic very compelling. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BTW, I find this change of heart by
you and John quite amusing. This is probably unfair but it almost sounds as if
one of you can't get your new e-plane to make weight with the current rules. I'm
sure that's not true, but from the outside it certainly appears that
way.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I hope the real reason for
"floating" this idea was to get people opinions. If so I'm beginning to see a
trend.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Keith
Black</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">----- Original Message -----
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=vanputte@cox.net href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van Putte</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Thursday,
June 21, 2007 7:38 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I was also not aware that glow-powered airplanes
needed the handicap they already have. I agree that, with innovative
design and $$$, electric-powered airplanes can compete with glow-powered
airplanes. The ones who suffer from the weight inequity are those who
can't afford the $$$ to overcome the weight inequity.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Ron Van Putte<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Jun 21, 2007, at 6:59 PM, John Ferrell
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I did not realize that the
Electrics were in need of a handicap. They seem to be doing just fine against
the recips under current rules. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you really think they need a
little help by all means give them a rule book
boost!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John Ferrell W8CCW<BR>"Life is
easier if you learn to plow <BR> around
the stumps"<BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=vanputte@cox.net href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van Putte</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:44 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
[NSRCA-discussion] Airplane Weight Limits<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">I just got this response from John
Fuqua.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Ron Van
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color=#0000fc size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: #0000fc">The guys
are missing the point. It is not about what can be achieved on
weight. It is what is permitted by the rules. They are
not arguing the logic of what the rules allow (in most cases) but examples
of what has been achieved. Please make that
point. </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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