<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Ron </font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Since you are the intermediary, tell
John that "The Point" is a problem. His point is really many
points that will be affected by this single point rule change.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Many things about the rules will never
be perfect and I think the point about the responses being received are
that his proposed change does not come without baggage of its own creating
new problems, not to mention being premature.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">People are flying and winning with electric
power with the current rules in place. Where is the problem? A few cannot
build under the 5Kg limit? Which is FAI, out of our control, and where
the majority of the electrics are anyway. So if we increase the weight
limit in AMA specifically for electric, FAI'ers can't use that.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">So my Point is, this proposal fixes
nothing and creates more problems. As far as John's point, let him know
that "I dig baby" but does not compute.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Sorry to be so pointed......</font>
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Gray Fowler<br>
Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<br>
Radomes and Specialty Apetures<br>
Technical Staff Composites Engineering<br>
Raytheon</font>
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<br><font size=3>I just got this response from John Fuqua.</font>
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<br><font size=3>Ron Van Putte</font>
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<br><font size=1 color=#0000fc>The guys are missing the point. It
is not about what can be achieved on weight. It is what is permitted
by the rules. They are not arguing the logic of what the rules
allow (in most cases) but examples of what has been achieved. Please
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<br><font size=1 face="Helvetica"><b>From:</b> Ron Van Putte [</font><a href=mailto:vanputte@cox.net><font size=1 color=blue face="Helvetica"><u>mailto:vanputte@cox.net</u></font></a><font size=1 face="Helvetica">] </font>
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<br><font size=1 face="Helvetica"><b>To:</b> Fuqua John D Mr CTR USAF 697
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<br><font size=1 face="Helvetica"><b>Subject:</b> Fwd: [NSRCA-discussion]
Fwd: Electric Weight Proposal Logic and Rationale</font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Helvetica"><b>From: </b></font><font size=3 color=#0000cb face="Helvetica">Joe
Lachowski <</font><a href=mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com><font size=3 color=#0000e3 face="Helvetica"><u>jlachow@hotmail.com</u></font></a><font size=3 color=#0000cb face="Helvetica">></font>
<br><font size=3 face="Helvetica"><b>Date: </b></font><font size=3 color=#0000cb face="Helvetica">June
21, 2007 12:56:28 PM CDT</font>
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<br><font size=3 color=#0000cb>I personally do not want any change. Technology
development will eventually even things out.</font>
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<br><font size=3 color=#0000cb>But if I were to have an increase it would
only be two ounces tops. The majority of those planes on the heavy side
are structurally designed for glow and are typically from what I have seen
very close to the weight limit or are within a couple ounces
of making weight. A couple of ounces may give you enough breathing room
and at the same time deter even bigger and more expensive airframes from
cropping up. Kind of a middle of the road compromise. A half pound is just
way too much to give.</font>
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<br><font size=3 color=#0000cb>Hmmm, my Brio is 10-1/4 lbs. Fueled for
a competition flight somewhere between 11 and 11-1/4 lbs at takeoff. Now
my Astral XX is around 10-3/4 lbs and I can feel the disadvantages of its
8 ozs. heavier weight. I also have a 10lb-13oz electric but it is too early
to tell since it only has 4 flights on it <G>. </font>
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