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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks
Ron.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I don’t
really remember flying by frequency. I was relatively new in pattern back then
and just went to the ready box when it was my turn. This was before contestant
judging when host clubs were filling chairs with willing club members and USPJA
judges when available. The club members were volunteers that seldom appeared a
second time due to outspoken pilots informing them of their perceived errors. I
learned early on by watching others not to express my dissatisfaction. At one
point when I was district VP I recorded scores I felt I earned for each
maneuver and each flight which were compared to the judges scores after the
contest. I seldom found more than a 2-point difference for single maneuvers and
the flight scores were virtually the same. It was an interesting comparison. Things
got a lot better with judge certification and contestant judging. The NSRCA can
be proud of the national standardization achieved through certification. Many thanks
to those dedicated individuals who continue the program.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ron Van Putte<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 07, 2007
12:03 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
For Sale</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Long ago,
right after dirt was invented, we used to fly by frequency. This was back
before the 50 channels we have now. There were seven 72 MHz frequencies,
as I remember (if I'm wrong, someone will jump in and correct me).
Contests were flown with, for example, all the pilots on 72.080 MHz flying in a
row, regardless of what class they flew. It was awkward for the judges,
because they would see pilots in different classes flying in front of them
helter skelter. We started flying by class in the southeast long
before the Nats were done this way. In fact, it was our success with
running classes this way that lead to the Nats adopting it. You just need
good frequency control. Later, we decided to allocate certain frequencies
to each class and frequency control became easier.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Ron Van Putte</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On Jun 7,
2007, at 11:42 AM, J N Hiller wrote:</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span class=emailstyle18><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Hi Ron. We’ve never met but I remember reading your column
for many years. Thank you!<O:P></O:P></span></font></span><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span class=emailstyle18><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I was flying pattern here in the Northwest in the early 90’s
and don’t recall having problems. Flight order on multiple flight lines was
arranged to position or separate conflicting frequencies which was inconvenient
at times, especially when mulligans disrupted the planned flight order. I guess
I didn’t understand the NATs planning problem. As I remember frequency
allocation first appeared when pattern and pylon events were flown
simultaneously and it was a no brainier to extend frequency allocation to
classes flown simultaneously on different flight lines. Can you fill me in on the
problem?<O:P></O:P></span></font></span><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Thanks<O:P></O:P></span></font></span><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span class=emailstyle18><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Jim Hiller<O:P></O:P></span></font></span><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span class=emailstyle18><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> <O:P></O:P></span></font></span><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ron Van Putte<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:14
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
For Sale</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <O:P></O:P></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I also remember a Nats meeting in which
flying by class, instead of by frequency, was discussed. Rick said (actually
more like 'bellowed') that frequency conflict problems would make it unsafe and
"nobody in the northwest would put up with it". We'd been doing it in
the southeast for many years. Well, here we are flying by class.<O:P></O:P></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <O:P></O:P></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Ron Van Putte <O:P></O:P></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <O:P></O:P></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On Jun 7, 2007, at 5:59 AM, Bob Richards
wrote:<O:P></O:P></span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><br>
<br style='mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br style='mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![endif]><O:P></O:P></span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:2.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I have to
chuckle a little about the fixed gear Oly. Rick Allison designed the Olympian.
Back in the early '90s I made the comment to him that I thought pattern planes
would be better with fixed gear (and fat fuselages), and he told me in no
uncertain terms that "Pattern planes would never fly right with fixed
gear". It would "screw up the force arrangement". I thought he
was going to burst a blood vessel.<O:P></O:P></span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:2.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Never say
never!! :-)<O:P></O:P></span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:2.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Bob R.<O:P></O:P></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Ed Deaver <<a
href="mailto:divesplat@yahoo.com">divesplat@yahoo.com</a>></span></i></b>
wrote:<O:P></O:P></span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:2.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Piorun Olympian Medal with fixed gear and cheek cowls added.<O:P></O:P></span></font><font
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