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<DIV><FONT size=2>Matt,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Just as a clarification, the judges in both AMA and FAI should
be within the extension of the 60 degree line, not on it. At the contest
you are referring to, when I initially sat down to judge I picked one of the
cranes as my distance reference on the right box line. I went to the chair
and the crane had moved. It was working that day. I did pick another
point and my points on both box ends were at least 1/2 mile from the flight
line. I also saw several other judges calibrate themselves and one
mentioned he was using the same points I was.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>We cover this in all the seminars I do. I hope everyone
else does also. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Don</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mjfrederick@cox.net href="mailto:mjfrederick@cox.net">Matthew
Frederick</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 13, 2007 4:11 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judges'
Positioning, Zero Lines,and Box Definition</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to thank you all, especially Don,
for your insight and clarification of the regulations and guidelines regarding
the positioning of judges and what they should do to take these kinds of
things into account. I have no doubt that in the case where I was downgraded
that the judges were simply using the pole realative to their position to
judge the size of the box I was to be flying in, that's the whole reason I
brought this up. I felt, from what I've experienced, that this is something
that needed to be addressed. I would also like to highlight what Don pointed
out in his reply: AMA regulations state that the judges should be positioned
on extensions of the 60-degree lines. If one of my judges had been sitting on
the line I looked down, at least only one would have downgraded me. It's also
important to note the point of judges "orienting" themselves to the box before
beginning a round of judging. If a point is chosen 150 meters out that the
judge can reference on the 60 degree line it will make it much easier to judge
the end of the box. I don't think I've seen one judge do this at any contest
I've been to in the past 2 years. Believe me, I'm not suggesting that all the
local contests move their poles out to 150 meters... just trying to bring an
issue to light that affects us all but rarely makes it into our regular
conversations. Plus a little controversy every now and then is
fun...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Matt</FONT></DIV>
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