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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What is typical attendance for pattern flyers at NATS?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>- NSRCA #4121<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John
Ferrell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
cannot recall having too many contestants ever being a problem at any of the
last dozen or so years...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>John Ferrell W8CCW<br>
"Life is easier if you learn to plow <br>
around the stumps"<br>
<a href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:fhhuber@clearwire.net"
title="fhhuber@clearwire.net">Fred Huber</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Thursday, April 26,
2007 12:26 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>This will cause some
complaints...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I would support having
district qualifiers to reduce the number of contestants at the NATS.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>One contest appx 15 to 30
days before the NATS, appx centered within the district (go by either the AMA
districts or the NSRCA districts, pick one) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Go through the full weigh-in,
measurements and noise testing. (which tend to get skipped at local
contests) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Top 10 from each district in
each class go to the NATS.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>They have Scale Qualifiers...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net"
title="vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> ; <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Wednesday, April 25,
2007 9:57 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>IMAC does not offer the Basic class in the
Nats. It appears that the situation is similar. Looks like you
can ask for your money back from at least two SIG. <o:p></o:p></p>
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Vicente "Vince" Bortone<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-------------- Original message
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From: "Mike Robinson" <<a href="mailto:shineyobject@gmail.com">shineyobject@gmail.com</a>>
<br>
Matt - at least you make a valid point about time and making room for other
events etc. But, WHO decided Sportsman Class was less important? I pay my dues
just like everybody else! It is my dues, in part, that helps put the NATS on to
begin with. Some say 'intent' is an issue. OK, I intend not participate in the
NATS. I should get my 'not intended' portion of my dues back from AMA. <br>
Some things are just wrong. Just because 'it is written' or 'the intention
was' does not make exclusion of the Sportsman class at NATS the right.<br>
And, that's all I got to say about that. <br>
Peace. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote>On 4/25/07, <b><a
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</a></b> <<a
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</a>> wrote:</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>It's
a matter of time allocation. Trying to get some 700 flights in during the time
available is no trivial task. Ask any Nats Event Director near you.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
would love to see our time increased by 2 days and Sportsman Class
allowed....but that ain't gonna happen at an AMA Nats. AMA puts on a great deal
of other events, many of which require the same site. The allotted time is
divided as appropriate </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>NSRCA
has put on it's own NATS (in lieu of and much to the chagrin of AMA) a bunch of
year ago now. To do it again requires a whole lot of motivation,
volunteers and money. It's doable but it's no trivial matter either </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>MattK</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In a message dated 4/25/2007 8:45:14 PM
Eastern Standard Time, <a href="mailto:shineyobject@gmail.com" target="_blank">shineyobject@gmail.com</a>
writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span class=q><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Don't worry about it
Keith, we Sportman are just to freaking dangerous to be around!</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=gmailquote><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On 4/25/07, <b>Keith
Hoard</b> <<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com" target="_blank"
title="mailto:khoard@gmail.com"> mailto:khoard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Has anyone ever estimated how many more
people would attend the Nats<br>
if Sportsman class was offered?<br>
<br>
On 4/25/07, Mike Robinson <<a href="mailto:shineyobject@gmail.com"
target="_blank" title="mailto:shineyobject@gmail.com"> shineyobject@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> With as much respect as I can muster...Translation is...<br>
> "The governing body don't think Sportsmen are good enough to fly the
NATS". <br>
> Safety?...gimme a break!<br>
> And we wonder why people think we aerobatic pilots are snobs! Not only are<br>
> we snobs, we are often full of sh%@!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 4/25/07, Keith Hoard < <a href="ma!%20ilto:khoard@gmail.com"
target="_blank" title="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > You weren't at the GMA contest last weekend. . .<br>
> ><br>
> > . . .<snip>. . Also, I doubt that a<br>
> > > true Sportsman would be very comfortable flying at the
Intermediate <br>
> level at<br>
> > > the NATS.<br>
> > . . .<snip>. .<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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