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color=#0000ff size=2>Munie is as close to the population center of the US.
as the AMA could get. That is why I have been told AMA set up there
tent there.Moving the nats around the country would probably cost the NSRCA some
$$$. Do we need that drain on our bank account? NATS entry fee $100 moving the
NATS around would probably increase that amount to! That being said I will go to
the NATS no matter what out of the way place that can be found if at all
possible.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>gary</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Derek
Koopowitz<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:39 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming
Nats.<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>The person that headed that committee was Don Atwood, if I
recall. He is no longer involved, however, Lance Van Nostrand was involved
in that committee as well. I'll check with Lance to see where we
stand.<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 4/26/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Jerry
Stebbins</B> <<A
href="mailto:JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net">JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Tony,
Lamar appointed someone to head up a NSRCA review of what was required<BR>for
an "off- Muncie site" Pattern NATS, and a survey of potential sites, at
<BR>least a year ago. Wonder whatever came of that action. Derek, do you
know<BR>what has been done, and where we are?<BR>Jerry<BR>----- Original
Message -----<BR>From: "Tony Stillman" <<A
href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com"> tony@radiosouthrc.com</A>><BR>To:
"'NSRCA Mailing List'" <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>Sent:
Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:07 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming
Nats. <BR><BR><BR>> Actually, several SIGS, including NSRCA have expressed
interest in moving<BR>> their portion (pattern) of the NATS to another
venue every other year or<BR>> so.<BR>> AMA EC is pretty much in favor
of allowing the SIGS to do that, and that <BR>> is<BR>> also part of the
discussions of my committee. AMA would still handle the<BR>>
paperwork part, but the SIG would be responsible for all the
rest.<BR>><BR>> Tony Stillman, President<BR>> Radio South <BR>>
3702 N. Pace Blvd<BR>> Pensacola, FL 32505<BR>> 1-800-962-7802<BR>>
<A href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A><BR>><BR>>
-----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]
On Behalf Of twtaylor<BR>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:59 PM <BR>>
To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming
Nats.<BR>><BR>> Logistics 2,000 miles away from your home base is a
nightmare. Holding it<BR>> in<BR>> one place allows the "Home base" to
have everything needed on hand in an <BR>> instant. The procedures don't
change very much. If we moved the Nats<BR>> around<BR>> we'd have to
"re-invent the wheel" every year.<BR>><BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
] On Behalf Of Pat Hewitt<BR>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:36
PM<BR>> To: NSRCA Mailing List<BR>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming
Nats.<BR>><BR>> I know there must be a good reason that the Nats are
always held in Muncy <BR>> but<BR>> WHY. If nothing else take it on the
road every other year.<BR>><BR>> Thanks<BR>><BR>> Pat
Hewitt<BR>><BR>> ------ Original Message ------<BR>> Received: 11:01
AM CDT, 04/26/2007<BR>> From: "Tony Stillman" <<A
href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com">tony@radiosouthrc.com</A>><BR>> To:
"'NSRCA Mailing List'" <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
</A>><BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1<BR>><BR>>
This is an interesting discussion. I am currently the Chairman of
the<BR>> NATS<BR>> review committee, as established by AMA President
Dave Brown. We are <BR>> currently reviewing all aspects of the
NATS, as well as looking to what<BR>> changes need to be made to ensure
that the future of the NATS is<BR>> preserved.<BR>> Lots of ideas have
been floated, and I'm sure changes will be made. While <BR>> at
the Ocala contest, I asked for input from any of the pilots there as
to<BR>> what they thought about the NATS. Didn't get the first
bit of info from<BR>> anyone. maybe just too busy to talk..<BR>>
<BR>><BR>><BR>> The rules that govern what events are flown at the
NATS are pretty much<BR>> influenced by rules proposals and what the SIGS
want done. The NSRCA<BR>> pretty<BR>> much runs the
NATS. If the NSRCA wants to include Sportsman, they can <BR>>
probably do that. The idea about that class was that it is an entry
level<BR>> class, and many pilots would move up before getting to the end
of the<BR>> season. That is not usually the case in the rest of
the classes. <BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> How about the idea of making the
NATS into an event you have to qualify<BR>> for?<BR>> Take figure
skating for example. You can't just walk up to the US<BR>>
National<BR>> Figure Skating Championships and plop down your skates and
some money and <BR>> compete.. You have to QUALIFY! That means
you compete locally and<BR>> regionally to get the points to qualify to
compete in the Championships.<BR>> It<BR>> would sure make everyone that
wanted to go to the NATS work a little <BR>> harder<BR>> to attend local
and regional events, that's for sure! We could also do<BR>>
the<BR>> contest is a shorter amount of time, because we would probably
limit the<BR>> contestants to around 15-20 per class.
<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Now don't get all worried that this is gonna
happen, it is just one way of<BR>> looking at how a NATS MIGHT be
run..<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Tony Stillman, President<BR>>
<BR>> Radio South<BR>><BR>> 3702 N. Pace Blvd<BR>><BR>>
Pensacola, FL 32505<BR>><BR>> 1-800-962-7802<BR>><BR>> <A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A><BR>><BR>><BR>>
<BR>> _____<BR>><BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
</A>] On Behalf Of<BR>> <A
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A><BR>> Sent:
Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:09 AM<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
</A><BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule
8.1.1<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> This is a beef to be taken up with the
AMA Contest Board and mostly with<BR>> AMA<BR>> Nats Management. Airing
your laundry on this list does no good to anybody <BR>> and appears to be
aggravating you.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> For the record, AMA is not
excluding YOU. You may fly as you wish but you<BR>> would have to fly at a
higher level. If you can't fly at the higher level, <BR>> you may want to
reconsider what you wish for. For that matter, there are<BR>> no<BR>>
other qualifications I know of in any other event flown at the
National<BR>> Championship. You may pay your entry fee and enter any other
event as <BR>> well.<BR>> Point is AMA is not excluding YOU, so don't
take it personally.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> THE National Championship
has its set of rules that we all have to abide<BR>> by.<BR>> As the old
saying goes, "You can please some people most of the time....." <BR>> In
this case, the Nats rules ".....please most people most of the<BR>>
time...."<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
MattK<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> In a message dated 4/26/2007 6:37:26 AM
Eastern Standard Time, <BR>> <A
href="mailto:shineyobject@gmail.com">shineyobject@gmail.com</A>
writes:<BR>><BR>> Keith - I'm so chilled you'd think I was a watermelon
on ice, but I hope<BR>> my<BR>> point is not lost amid my sarcasm. It
simply isn't right to exclude equal <BR>> paying, equal participating
members from any activity sponsored by
AMA.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> _____<BR>><BR>>
See what's free at AOL.com <<A
href="http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503">
http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503</A>><BR>>
.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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