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<DIV>after all the years of flying glo, I still end up equating the electric
stuff to glo. I equate the mistake of flying a pack that is not charged to
a SERIOUSLY lean run on a glo motor. If you catch it early enough maybe
you won't cook the motor or the battery.</DIV>
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<DIV>Other items that can be equated to glo</DIV>
<DIV> - charging = fueling up</DIV>
<DIV> - AC, deep cycle 12V battery or generator =
fuel jug (and the spare in your car and all the fuel at home)</DIV>
<DIV> - glo driver = hmmm haven't found a match
unless you use a shorting plug</DIV>
<DIV> - starter = hmmmm haven't found a match unless
the ESC arming beep counts</DIV>
<DIV> - fuel tubing = 14 gauge silicone wire</DIV>
<DIV> - fuel tank = battery </DIV>
<DIV> - fuel filter = clean AC or DC power</DIV>
<DIV> - Velcro straps = velcro straps to
hold anything to anything glo or electric</DIV>
<DIV> - soft mount = uhhhh still working on that</DIV>
<DIV> - muffler = uhhhh still working on that unless the
larger exhaust opening in the bottom of an electric counts</DIV>
<DIV> - header = those 3 wires from the ESC to the
motor</DIV>
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<DIV>I am sure there are more, but it time for lunch.....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Don</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 4/18/2007 12:34:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
trexlesh@msn.com writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>Yep, Don is right on the money... I hate to admit it, simply
because he can use it against me at a later date....</DIV>
<DIV>I kind of like my system of using the colors, but I'm thinking now that
I'll do away with the Red bands...</DIV>
<DIV>When I charge, I'll place a Green band on the pack before putting it in
the case... I'll just check the voltage</DIV>
<DIV>with the "Really Expensive" voltmeter I bought especially for
that purpose, BEFORE I put the pack in the plane...</DIV>
<DIV>Funny how it takes only one potentially EXPENSIVE mistake to wake a guy
up!!!!</DIV>
<DIV>What it boils down to is simply the fact that you can have all these
foolproof systems, but if you don't adhere to</DIV>
<DIV>the discipline of using them, these things WILL happen.</DIV>
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<DIV>Rex</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=mailto:dkrev@shaw.ca
href="mailto:dkrev@shaw.ca">Dave Reaville</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:40
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
E-power</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hi Rex et al</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Yep sadly this has happen to me as well. Hard
lesson when you have a World Class, multi- FAI Canadian Champion on the
sticks trying out your plane and you inadvertently load up a set of used
packs. ARGHHH! (Lets just say it wasn't one of my best weeks of RC memories
and leave it at that.) Totally preventable.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>You need a system that provides checks & balances
to ensure that you don't find yourself in this situation as it's hard
on batteries, planes and nerves :-). For a time I was using a method (from
Chad Northeast) that had the leads wrapped together to indicate a charged
set. Once unwrapped for use in the plane they are left that way until they
are recharged. This method works well for 10S setups and those
running separate 5S packs that had both leads at the same end. It did work
well for me but I have since gone to the new FP F3A pack's that,
through weight reduction design, has the leads at opposite ends of the
pack. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I agree with Don A. that the voltage check is the only
real assured way to confirm pack state. You have to come up with
a routine that confirms the voltage prior to flight. I
wrote a K-Factor article years ago on the CATT process I
use before takeoff. <STRONG>C</STRONG>ontrols,
<STRONG>A</STRONG>ntenna, <STRONG>T</STRONG>rims, <STRONG>T</STRONG>imer
helps me negate any "issues" with these items once airborne. So I now
need to come up with something that includes the battery state.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>As my canopy is the last thing to go on (switch is
inside for that ultra clean look :-) maybe something simple like ABC
for <STRONG>A</STRONG>ircraft - (wing attachment bolts?),
<STRONG>B</STRONG>atteries (both the RX and main pack voltage
check) before <STRONG>C</STRONG>anopy... I don't know for sure but
something like that as we humans need all the help we can get. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Food for thought,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mailto:trexlesh@msn.com href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com">Rex
LESHER</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:02
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
E-power</DIV>
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<DIV>Been there, done that... Most of us have, and won't admit it..
lol</DIV>
<DIV>I finally got two colors of bands to place around the packs...
Green and Red. When I get done charging, I place a Green</DIV>
<DIV>band on the battery. After I fly, I place a Red band around the
pack... I was thinking about how clever I was... Right
up</DIV>
<DIV>until I flew a pack the other day that didn't seem to have much
power. It had a Green band on it!!! Green means go,
right?</DIV>
<DIV>Some dumby got lazy and didn't follow procedure.... New
Rule!!! "ALWAYS CHECK VOLTAGE BEFORE FLIGHT, NO MATTER
WHAT."</DIV>
<DIV>I still use the color bands, but now the voltage gets checked
anyway! With multiple packs, it's easy to get confused which
pack is</DIV>
<DIV>which. Especially when you are preheating the packs in cold
weather! I got out of the habit of checking the pack voltage because
I'm using</DIV>
<DIV>the TP1010 charger, which displays voltage... Bad habit,
if you're not taking it off the charger and putting it in the plane.</DIV>
<DIV>Just for you Don, MINE DEFINITELY TOOK MORE THAN 5200+. All I
will say is that the 5300's have more than 5300!</DIV>
<DIV>I'm just wondering which pack you did that to? lmao</DIV>
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