Robert - I've had and have most of your flying habits. But, once I committed to do maneuvers in a planned way instead of just doing them I soon realized I needed to use every tool available to me which included the rudder. I have found that with practice, and a good coach if available, those habits tend to be replaced with better ones. I guess I'm saying "Do your time" and it will work out.
<br>Lastly, those maneuvers are supposed to be daunting! If they were easy, then every sport flyer would be a pattern flyer!<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 3/15/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Robert L. Beaubien
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">As someone that is trying to unlearn the bad habits of my
training, I wonder if I am approaching this the wrong way. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I was trained to fly without rudder (except for ground control)
and learned the reverse controls concept when flying toward me and I pretty
much think that way when flying. I have learned to use a little rudder to
be able to land in crosswinds, but it just seems to foreign to me. As I
start down the path of learning to fly pattern, I find the concept of learning
to fly a straight path in a cross wind while performing maneuvers to be
daunting. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Troy has been helping me out a lot, but I was wondering if
anyone has suggestions for going through this relearning process.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">- Robert Beaubien</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">
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Stafford<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'NSRCA Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Field lay out Advice</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">I have to disagree on this one. I now teach guys for a living
how to fly. We end up teaching them UAV's, but they learn on .60
size trainers. These guys have no background in R/C and I think if you
don't let them be affected by the wind, then they wont be. Our
normal flying days here in SW texas are 10-15mph, and these guys are soloing in
5 days flying only in the afternoons. Usually straight in our face, or straight
from our backs. I don't think I've had a day yet that we
didn't have a significant crosswind. I have found here, that if you
don't let the guys become psychologically affected by the wind and such,
then it isn't near as big a factor. Another tip we have found and
it is true, is that we do not mention ANYTHING about the controls being
different when coming at them. I've heard people say "the
controls reverse when coming at you", well, that's not actually
true, it only appears that way. By not telling them that, it takes that
thought process out of their heads and they don't fight it. Teach
in the wind, and they'll be able to fly in the wind.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">Arch Stafford</span></p>
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