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<DIV><FONT size=2>The original description said the points were noted.
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<DIV><FONT size=2>No downgrade for lack of points.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The original description just complained "I couldn't see if
the point was ON the 90" Well that means it was less than 15 deg off
because you WOULD see 15 deg off. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>No downgrade.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>No downgradable item was noted in the initial point roll
description.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Its a 10</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=drykert2@rochester.rr.com href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com">Del
K. Rykert</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:58
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging
Question</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><STRONG>I sure concur Gene
.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> <FONT
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href="mailto:gene.maurice@sgmservice.com">Gene Maurice</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=randy10926@comtekmail.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:38
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If the points are
so fast as to make it indiscernible what angle they occurred at, then I
would tend to doubt whether the point occurred at all. Score 0. It is the
pilot’s responsibility to present the maneuver in such a manner to
demonstrate that the maneuver has in fact been done according to the rules.
I sincerely doubt that a 4 point can be done in 1.25 seconds with defined
stops in the roll every 90 degrees. But it remains that if, as a judge, you
cannot clearly see the relevant elements of any maneuver being performed,
then you should assume that IT HAS NOT been performed. The elements must be
demonstrated not assumed. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Don Ramsey, can you
clarify?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">Gene
Maurice<BR>gene.maurice@sgmservice.com<BR><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Plano</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">TX</st1:State></st1:place><BR>AMA 3408, NSRCA
877</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Glenn Hatfield<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, February 28, 2007
10:24 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> nsrca-discuss
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[NSRCA-discussion] Judging Question</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ok time to get back to our
favorite list questions.<BR><BR>This comes from a real life judging
problem. The question is about the 4-point roll. This what I am
seeing. A 4 point roll that takes less than 1.25 second to
complete. You can see 4 very short pauses. The manever appears
to be centered. I see no change in height or coming in or out.
It appears to be between 150M and 175M. But the pauses are so short
that I cannot really tell if the rolls between pauses are 90 degrees.
So I cannot see what the 1 point per 15 degree down grade should
be.<BR><BR><BR>What would you
do?<BR><BR><BR>Randy<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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