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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes Keith you are right and that&#8217;s
why I asked the question&#8230;.all designs are a compromise&#8230;but Beech
had to overcome some real hurdles on the 1900 D when they modified it so
radically.&nbsp; Remember it was not a design-from-scratch airplane&#8230;.it was a
severe design derivative that was made to work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Keith Hoard<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 22, 2007
11:22 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
 Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Strange looking plane from Patrick Lemonnier</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Yes, they couldn't get it right the first time.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>All of those little aerodynamic &quot;thingys&quot; are tacked on
during certification because the original design was lacking in&nbsp;one aspect
or another.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Why else would you add drag and complexity to a perfectly functioning
airplane?<br>
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&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 1/22/07, <st1:PersonName w:st="on"><b><span
 style='font-weight:bold'>White, Chris</span></b></st1:PersonName> &lt;<a
href="mailto:chris@ssd.fsi.com">chris@ssd.fsi.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></font></span>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Hi Dean,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Just curious, but do you think we could learn anything from
RAC about flow dynamics considering all the aerodynamic devices hung on the
Beech 1900 D???:)&nbsp; </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Chris</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'> J</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org </a>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dean Pappas<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 22, 2007
9:43 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
 Mailing List</st1:PersonName> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Strange looking plane from Patrick Lemonnier</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Now
that is funny!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Why,
you ask? Because just yesterday I was on the phone with Matt K. and said to him
that the vertical part of the flow straightener (translation for canaliser) was
not really necessary. I said that the basic purpose is to make the airflow
track down the length of the tailcone, rather than spilling around the top, as
the plane is yawed. That improves both pitching behavior and knife edge power.
When I get the needed weather, I will hang a little straightener on the Funtana
to see what happens to its strong push to the belly in K.E. What about chine
strips? I'll have to try that, as they could be less ugly, and even add
structural stiffness.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>later,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dean</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dean
Pappas</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sr. Design Engineer</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Kodeos Communications</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>111 Corporate Blvd.</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt'>South Plainfield</span></font></st1:City><font
 size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>, <st1:State w:st="on">N.J.</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode
 w:st="on">07080</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:place><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(908) 222-7817 phone</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(908) 222-2392 fax</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com" target="_blank">d.pappas@kodeos.com</a></span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org </a>]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><a
href="mailto:JonLowe@aol.com" target="_blank">JonLowe@aol.com</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January 21, 2007
11:13 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion]
Strange looking plane from Patrick Lemonnier</span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The
lastest incarnation of PL Products has a very strange plane called the
Axial.&nbsp; Take a look.&nbsp; This makes the t-canalizer look good by
comparison. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://www.patricklemonnier.com/" target="_blank">http://www.patricklemonnier.com/
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jon
Lowe</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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