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<DIV><SPAN class=511301920-22012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Gray,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=511301920-22012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Complication and Sophistication are ideally
opposites!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=511301920-22012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
solution is complicated ... Yecchhh!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=511301920-22012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gray E
Fowler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 22, 2007 1:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Strange looking plane
from Patrick Lemonnier<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>Dean</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I have only heard
rumor of such anhedral design and seen pictures...I am much too young to have
experienced those planes. But the answer is yes! </FONT><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>It not that the canard type thingy exists, but what I
want to know is why anyone would want to carry two more servos, and how those
thingys , at the position they are at would be programmed...into what
function? two servos means opposite twists...WTF is that for? If its a mix
looks like a pain to me, especially since it would seem that the ailerons
would do the same thing but more efficiently. They are not canards. By the
way.....everyone needs to look up the definition of canard. Most
dictionaries do not list it as an aerodynamic control device....(to half sell
a duck-which is more confusing to me).</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>Someone please explain to me the purpose of the rear canopy "half sold
ducks"....wait a minute...I know the purpose! It is to get schmoes like us
talking about it! Darn, fell for that French trick again!<BR><BR><BR>Gray
Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radome and Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</FONT> <BR><BR><BR>
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color=blue size=2>Gray ... You mean like the anhedralled stab back in the
seventies! Right?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Dean Pappas</FONT><FONT size=3>
</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><BR>Sr. Design Engineer</FONT><FONT
size=3> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><BR>Kodeos
Communications</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><BR>111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><BR>South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT><FONT
size=3> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><BR>(908) 222-7817
phone</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><BR>(908)
222-2392 fax</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><BR>d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<B><BR>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gray E
Fowler<B><BR>Sent:</B> Monday, January 22, 2007 10:53 AM<B><BR>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<B><BR>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Strange looking plane
from Patrick Lemonnier<BR></FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>To me it
is all shock value. Once it hits the streets everyone will know that you
cannot win without it...as long as you are e-powered.</FONT><FONT size=3>
</FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior
Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radome and Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR><BR></FONT>
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size=3><BR><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Now that is
funny!</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Why, you ask?
Because just yesterday I was on the phone with Matt K. and said to him that
the vertical part of the flow straightener (translation for canaliser) was not
really necessary. I said that the basic purpose is to make the airflow track
down the length of the tailcone, rather than spilling around the top, as the
plane is yawed. That improves both pitching behavior and knife edge power.
When I get the needed weather, I will hang a little straightener on the
Funtana to see what happens to its strong push to the belly in K.E. What about
chine strips? I'll have to try that, as they could be less ugly, and even add
structural stiffness.</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><BR>later,</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><BR>Dean</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>Dean Pappas</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><BR>Sr. Design
Engineer</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><BR>Kodeos Communications</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=2><BR>111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><BR>South Plainfield, N.J.
07080</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><BR>(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=2><BR>(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><BR>d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<B><BR>From:</B>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>JonLowe@aol.com<B><BR>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:13
PM<B><BR>To:</B> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<B><BR>Subject:</B>
[NSRCA-discussion] Strange looking plane from Patrick Lemonnier</FONT><FONT
size=3><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>The lastest incarnation of PL
Products has a very strange plane called the Axial. Take a look.
This makes the t-canalizer look good by comparison.</FONT><FONT size=3>
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT
color=blue size=3><U><BR></U></FONT><A
href="http://www.patricklemonnier.com/"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><U>http://www.patricklemonnier.com/</U></FONT></A><FONT size=3>
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><BR>Jon Lowe</FONT><FONT
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