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<div>With its wheel pants ON... I hope (BG). </div>
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<div>Matt</div>
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From: d.pappas@kodeos.com<br>
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] A123 batteries<br>
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<div><SPAN class=625002215-17012007>Hi Ed,</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN class=625002215-17012007>That's why I sent the link out. A123 do something just as impressive (to me) with a nail. Bullets just add pizzazz!</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN class=625002215-17012007></SPAN> </div>
<div><SPAN class=625002215-17012007>The other neat bit with E-power sources and bullets was the tests Uncle Sam did with Methanol powered fuel cells for military backpack supplies. BIC (yes the cigarette lighter people) are doing the containment vessels, and your tax dollars proved that bullets through a bottle don't start an explosion or fire. Tell that to the hotel manager at the NATs. The fuel cells aren't doing 70+ amps yet, though. That would be cool, a fueled E-model. Talk about riding the fence. How would you weigh it?</SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN class=625002215-17012007>all the best,</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN class=625002215-17012007>Dean</SPAN></div>
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </div>
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<div class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<br>
<B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed Alt<br>
<B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:19 PM<br>
<B>To:</B> patternrules@earthlink.net; NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] A123 batteries<br>
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<div>Dean:</div>
<div>Did you see that promotional video of the Saphion where they fired off multiple rounds into a backback radio battery pack? Pretty neat, eh?</div>
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<div>Ed</div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('d.pappas@kodeos.com', '');">Dean Pappas</A> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:patternrules@earthlink.net href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('patternrules@earthlink.net', '');">patternrules@earthlink.net</A> ; <A title=mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org', '');">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:46 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] A123 batteries</div>
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<div><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial>Hi All,</FONT></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial>FMA has just released a version of their CellPro charger intended for the A123s, as well.</FONT></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN class=577184114-16012007></SPAN><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </div>
<div><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial>Similar to the A123s, there is a series of intrinsically safe LiIons called the Saphion by an outfit called Valence (valence.com)</FONT></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial>The energy density is similar, but the power density and charge rates are not.</FONT></SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial>later,</FONT></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial> Dean</FONT></SPAN></div>
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <br>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </div>
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<div class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<br>
<B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Steven Maxwell<br>
<B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:06 AM<br>
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<div><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"> The Thunderpower charger has a firmware update to charge the A123 batteries, just download off the internet and use cable to load to charger.</FONT></div>
<div><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"> No I'm not sponsored and I aint selling anything just info.</FONT></div>
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<div>Steven Maxwell</div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org', '');">NSRCA Mailing List</A></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 1/16/2007 12:30:51 AM </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] A123 batteries</div>
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<div>Kelly,</div>
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<div>Yeah, I have heard and read about these in some of the RC magazines. Slightly less voltage than a lipo cell, slightly less energy density (IIRC) but much faster charge/discharge times, many more expected cycles, and supposedly safer. Standard lipo/lion chargers won't work wtih them, however.</div>
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<div>I also saw where A123 will be working with GM on the all-electric plug-in car that GM recently announced they were developing.</div>
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<div>Bob R.</div>
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<B><I>Kelly Regan <kelly.regan2@verizon.net></I></B> wrote:</div>
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http://www.a123systems.com/html/home.html<br>
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