<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jan 16, 2007, at 6:18 PM, Ed Alt wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV>Did you see that promotional video of the Saphion where they fired off multiple rounds into a backback radio battery pack? Pretty neat, eh?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>I did, about two tears ago. The time lapse photography, which showed a competitor's pack torching off over a period of an hour or so and their's just sitting there, was very impressive. It impressed me so much that I bought stock in the company (Valence Technology).</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Ron Van Putte<BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com" href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean Pappas</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title="mailto:patternrules@earthlink.net" href="mailto:patternrules@earthlink.net">patternrules@earthlink.net</A> ; <A title="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:46 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] A123 batteries</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="577184114-16012007"><FONT face="Arial">Hi All,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="577184114-16012007"><FONT face="Arial">FMA has just released a version of their CellPro charger intended for the A123s, as well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="577184114-16012007"></SPAN><SPAN class="577184114-16012007"><FONT face="Arial"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="577184114-16012007"><FONT face="Arial">Similar to the A123s, there is a series of intrinsically safe LiIons called the Saphion by an outfit called Valence (valence.com)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="577184114-16012007"><FONT face="Arial">The energy density is similar, but the power density and charge rates are not.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="577184114-16012007"><FONT face="Arial"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="577184114-16012007"><FONT face="Arial">later,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="577184114-16012007"><FONT face="Arial"> Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV><P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"><A href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">d.pappas@kodeos.com</A></FONT> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left"><FONT face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Steven Maxwell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] A123 batteries<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size="2"> The Thunderpower charger has a firmware update to charge the A123 batteries, just download off the internet and use cable to load to charger.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size="2"> No I'm not sponsored and I aint selling anything just info.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Steven Maxwell</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 1/16/2007 12:30:51 AM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] A123 batteries</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size="2"> <DIV>Kelly,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yeah, I have heard and read about these in some of the RC magazines. Slightly less voltage than a lipo cell, slightly less energy density (IIRC) but much faster charge/discharge times, many more expected cycles, and supposedly safer. Standard lipo/lion chargers won't work wtih them, however.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I also saw where A123 will be working with GM on the all-electric plug-in car that GM recently announced they were developing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bob R.</DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Kelly Regan <<A href="mailto:kelly.regan2@verizon.net">kelly.regan2@verizon.net</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class="replbq" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Have you guys seen this?<BR><BR><A href="http://www.a123systems.com/html/home.html">http://www.a123systems.com/html/home.html</A><BR><BR>-- <BR>______________________________________________<BR><BR>Kelly Regan<BR><BR>Home Page: www.reganspace.com<BR><BR>______________________________________________<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV> <BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><HR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">NSRCA-discussion mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>