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<DIV><SPAN class=625002215-17012007>Hi Ed,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625002215-17012007>That's why I sent the link out. A123 do
something just as impressive (to me) with a nail. Bullets just add
pizzazz!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625002215-17012007></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625002215-17012007>The other neat bit with E-power sources and
bullets was the tests Uncle Sam did with Methanol powered fuel cells for
military backpack supplies. BIC (yes the cigarette lighter people) are doing the
containment vessels, and your tax dollars proved that bullets through a bottle
don't start an explosion or fire. Tell that to the hotel manager at the NATs.
The fuel cells aren't doing 70+ amps yet, though. That would be cool, a fueled
E-model. Talk about riding the fence. How would you weigh it?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625002215-17012007></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625002215-17012007>all the best,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625002215-17012007>Dean</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625002215-17012007></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed
Alt<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:19 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
patternrules@earthlink.net; NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] A123 batteries<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Dean:</DIV>
<DIV>Did you see that promotional video of the Saphion where they fired off
multiple rounds into a backback radio battery pack? Pretty neat,
eh?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ed</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean
Pappas</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:patternrules@earthlink.net
href="mailto:patternrules@earthlink.net">patternrules@earthlink.net</A> ; <A
title=mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:46
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] A123
batteries</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial>Hi
All,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial>FMA has just released a
version of their CellPro charger intended for the A123s, as
well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=577184114-16012007></SPAN><SPAN
class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial>Similar to the A123s,
there is a series of intrinsically safe LiIons called the Saphion by an
outfit called Valence (valence.com)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT face=Arial>The energy density is
similar, but the power density and charge rates are not.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT
face=Arial>later,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=577184114-16012007><FONT
face=Arial> Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Steven Maxwell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:06
AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] A123 batteries<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"> The Thunderpower charger has a
firmware update to charge the A123 batteries, just download off the
internet and use cable to load to charger.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"> No I'm not sponsored and I aint
selling anything just info.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Steven Maxwell</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mailto:bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob
Richards</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A
title=mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing
List</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 1/16/2007 12:30:51 AM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
A123 batteries</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Kelly,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yeah, I have heard and read about these in some of the RC
magazines. Slightly less voltage than a lipo cell, slightly less energy
density (IIRC) but much faster charge/discharge times, many more
expected cycles, and supposedly safer. Standard lipo/lion chargers
won't work wtih them, however.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I also saw where A123 will be working with GM on the all-electric
plug-in car that GM recently announced they were developing.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Kelly Regan <kelly.regan2@verizon.net></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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you guys seen
this?<BR><BR>http://www.a123systems.com/html/home.html<BR><BR>--
<BR>______________________________________________<BR><BR>Kelly
Regan<BR><BR>Home Page:
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