<div> Hey Jim my limited experience with Electric has me smiling. Maybe I've been lucky so far but things are really going well. </div> <div>I have the option to fly my Genesis YS DZ or my Axi F3A powered Impact so if things with the E. go sour I'm ready to go YS'n. </div> <div> As far as my experience goes with the DZ 160 and the 140 (and I feel that its substantial enough to qualify me to comment) they are labor intensive. Pumps,diaphrams,gears, broken cases,headers and a host of goodies are regular items that break. I have a love hate relationship with them. They are the finest small engines in the world and they are asked to do more than they should. Since they are always pushed to the limit I expect them to have falures. In this they never disappoint me.</div> <div> We have more then 10 guys in my pattern club with the DZ and the problems with these engines are spread among all of us. We have plenty of good engine guys and we deal with the
problems. Richard has been good to us at all times. High performance whether it be an E option or a DZ comes with some expected breakdowns. OS's on the other hand look fairly bulletproof to me. I just don't care for the performance VS: the YS. I had the OS 160 2 years ago on 1 of my planes.</div> <div> My opinion and I'll stick to it. Best of luck with your setup. Thats why they make chocalate and vanilla. </div> <div> See you at the Nats!!!!! I'm coming back after taking the last 30 years off. </div> <div> Mike Mueller<BR><BR><B><I>Cameron Smith <dentdoc007@adelphia.net></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Generator> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C73897.ADC674B0" rel=File-List><LINK
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Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Archie Stafford<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, January 15, 2007 11:03 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'NSRCA Mailing List'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Back to glow???!!!</SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyone else looking forward to April/May so that people wont have as much time in front of the computer??<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div
class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Robert Mairs<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, January 15, 2007 9:50 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Back to glow???!!!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Actually, I agree with some of the stuff you wrote, and not some of the stuff you wrote. I do know when someone wants to scare people off electric, they always throw in the fire senario. Wasn't trying to be funny at all.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
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title=Jim.Woodward@armorholdings.com href="mailto:Jim.Woodward@armorholdings.com">Jim Woodward</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Monday, January 15, 2007 9:33 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Back to glow???!!!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That’s funny Robert, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would prefer to think that the YS sponsorship had something to do with
the last 7 years of pattern flying, about 50 contests, a 2002 nats win and some other years of placing there, a whole mess of local wins from intermediate – FAI. I don’t know – maybe 15 or 20 K-Factor articles, some time on the judging committee and as D7 and D3 AVP positions. I happen to like it when people share some experienced based information, instead of the wealth of conjecture threads like “… what color scheme is the best.” … just me thinking out loud though.... other opinions vary I’m sure. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">… and to think I thought I wrote a fairly clean email below, not flaming
particular E –quipment, and I even mentioning OS </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> . As I wrote it, I felt a flame from Del may be coming though, as I did mention Hatori, which may or not be an advertiser in the K-Factor???? I don’t know – haven’t been reading the list of advertiser sections in the big K lately. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim W.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Robert Mairs<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Monday, January 15, 2007 9:19 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Back to glow???!!!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Fire............that's a low blow, you earned your YS sponsorship!!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div
class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> <div class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=Jim.Woodward@armorholdings.com href="mailto:Jim.Woodward@armorholdings.com">Jim Woodward</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Monday, January 15, 2007 8:48 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Back to glow???!!!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">After the Nationals this summer I switched back from E to glow and now running the YS 160. This motor has been really fun to run, but I have sent one back due to a dragging on the back-plate. This was repaired and runs like a thoroughbred now. There is almost no drip of any kind on this system until the exhaust point of the stinger (using Hatori
821/822 combination from Central….)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I hope you have a good E-experience. There was not a single E-component in the powertrain I used that did not outright fail after just a few flights, fail out of the package, or have seriously degraded performance after a short number of runs. Further, while expecting “consistent” performance, I found more variables taking place with the E setup than on glow. Looking back, my OS 140 setup was more “consistent” day to day than my E-period. The E stuff is critical on monitoring battery consumption, amps, etc… This pertains to the equipment I used. I realized that my comfort running glow and dealing with the full realm of potential problems is easier for me to handle than learning an entirely new problem solving set for E,
then having duplicate equipment to deal with those potential problems.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For me – (advice just worth what your paying for it), the E stuff takes way more time & money to “care-and-feed” than my glow setup, and this far out weighs any potential E-Advantage. I do not think you get a “better flying plane” with E, you just get to play with bigger prop diameters. If there is a point benefit to flying E, I think that the planes are so close that if were to blink or sneeze during the flight one would overtake the other. I think the E stuff is a bit more one dimensional and you should anticipate your weather conditions a bit more than with glow (… the haul-butt option always seems to be present with the glow setup if you want it). You need to develop a ton of insight
into your E setup as to avoid ruining it quickly. I think that for 97.5% of us pattern fliers, we are far better served just by getting more flying time in. For me it is FAR EASIER to take a gallon of fuel out and fly. When I get home the plane goes on the shelf until next week – no need to sit and watch batteries charging so I can put out a potential fire.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim W.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">YS Performance.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>mike mueller<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, January 15, 2007 8:14 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing
List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Back to glow???!!!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> This year I have one E. and one DZ plane. I'm really looking forward to not having to clean gunky exhaust off all the time. I really think that flying Electric is easier. Just plug it in and take off. I'm also looking forward to the potential savings I will see in shipping from Richards repair shop and my house. Trust me it's been a substantial sum. Mike<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Robert Mairs <robertm@sssnet.com></SPAN></I></B> wrote: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Any time I get the urge to go back to the DZ, I just look at my old log <BR>book, that
usually ends it. Plus I called the hobby shop to see what a case <BR>of 30% was going for since I hadn't bought any in a couple of years, my <BR>original packs are at breakeven with glow, any extra is a bonus.<BR><BR><BR>> Adrien L Terrenoire wrote:<BR>>> Just recently I was having a discussion with several top pattern<BR>>> fliers adn the sentiment seemed to be that we will be heading BACK to<BR>>> nitro power, and away from the current, pun intended, trend.<BR>>><BR>>> Any thoughts out there?<BR>>><BR>>> Terry T<BR>>><BR>>> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:18:55 -0500 "Emory Schroeter"<BR>>> <EMORYDMD@EARTHLINK.NET><MAILTO:EMORYDMD_X0040_EARTHLINK.NET>> writes:<BR>>><BR>>> Jon,<BR>>><BR>>> Don't let it get under your skin. Someone will always find fault<BR>>> with what you do when it is done publicly. BTW, I saved a copy of<BR>>> your article just in case I decide to switch back
to glow :-)<BR>>> Although, I'm not ready to switch back yet. Thanks for taking the<BR>>> time to do it. It is important that folks like yourself contribute<BR>>> to the KF. It is the only way it will continue to be a fantastic<BR>>> publication.<BR>>><BR>>> Thanks, Emory.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>> *From:* JonLowe@aol.com <BR><?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = MAILTO /><MAILTO:JONLOWE_X0040_AOL.COM>>> *To:* nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>>> <BR><MAILTO:NSRCA-DISCUSSION_X0040_LISTS.NSRCA.ORG>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 14, 2007 2:15 PM<BR>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] List rules... ??<BR>>><BR>>> Amen. I'm getting tired of the "political correctness" both<BR>>> on the list and the K Factor. I'm taking it a little personal<BR>>> at this point, because Lamar Blair told me that he got a<BR>>> letter (not email) the other day blasting the
article I wrote<BR>>> on the OS 1.60 in the Nov 2006 K Factor. Why? Because I<BR>>> dared to mention Tower Hobbies and other sources as suggested<BR>>> places you could get the pieces I described. I have not seen<BR>>> the letter, as Lamar sent it on to Derek K., but Lamar<BR>>> described the contents. The writer is a member of NSRCA and<BR>>> was offended because I mentioned non-advertising vendors, at<BR>>> the alledged expense of advertising vendors and local hobby<BR>>> shops. Let's see, Great Planes is a regular full page<BR>>> advertiser in the K Factor as the importer for Futaba and OS.<BR>>> Hmm, who owns Great Planes? Hobbico. Who owns Tower?<BR>>> Hobbico. Seems like Hobbico supports the K Factor to me. So<BR>>> much for that crime.<BR>>><BR>>> Other vendors I mentioned were Aeroslave, Andy Pollitt for<BR>>> nose rings, Home Depot, Karl Mueller for headers, Boca<BR>>>
Bearings, Dave Lockhart for repitched props, Bob Pasterello<BR>>> for coupler material, Morgan fuel, and a couple of others in<BR>>> passing. Why did I mention them? Because that would have<BR>>> been the first email I got, asking, "where do you buy this<BR>>> stuff?". Some of these guys are so small that advertising a<BR>>> lot doesn't make sense for them. Very few, if any, of the<BR>>> specialized parts may be available at your particular local<BR>>> hobby shop (LHS), and some vendors don't sell thru LHS. I<BR>>> support my LHS, but giving sources lets people look at what<BR>>> they are buying, even if they get it thru the LHS. I also<BR>>> support K Factor vendors, as my bills from Central and Budd<BR>>> prove. And sometimes I just don't feel like driving 20<BR>>> minutes to my LHS for something they don't stock and would<BR>>> special order, that I can order online and have delivered
to<BR>>> my door in a couple of days.<BR>>><BR>>> Frankly, I think Ihncheol did the right thing. He let people<BR>>> know of a supply for a scare product in high demand. He could<BR>>> have told his buddies about it, and have one of them post it,<BR>>> and no one would (or could)have said a thing. It isn't like<BR>>> he is on here all the time pushing his products.<BR>>><BR>>> The writer of the letter did not have the courtesy to copy me<BR>>> on the letter. Derek, if you read this, please send me a copy<BR>>> when you get it. Frankly, if the whole thing wasn't so<BR>>> ridiculous, I'd think twice about writing another article for<BR>>> the K Factor.<BR>>><BR>>> Incidently, I am not sponsored by any of the companies I<BR>>> mentioned in my article or here. I do write for RC Report on<BR>>> occasion. Oops, I just mentioned a non-advertisor! Shame on<BR>>>
me...<BR>>><BR>>> Jon Lowe<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> In a message dated 1/14/2007 11:42:58 AM Central Standard<BR>>> Time, ronlock@comcast.net writes:<BR>>><BR>>> We benefit from short focused posts on availability of<BR>>> some difficult to<BR>>> find product/part, substitute parts, reference to a part<BR>>> to solve problems,<BR>>> answers to questions, etc. Be that from a sponsored<BR>>> pilot, service company,<BR>>> cottage supplier, etc.<BR>>><BR>>> Do we need to ask NSRCA leadership for an interpretation<BR>>> or re-write of the<BR>>> Policy to establish a "Balance" of OK information as<BR>>> opposed to abuse of the<BR>>> list<BR>>> by advertisers? If this is a problem, then maybe so. Ive<BR>>> not seen a<BR>>> problem.<BR>>><BR>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>>
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