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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I built the Fusion, modified for pattern and put in
the 1.2 OS AX. After some work, it flew really well. My observations
are that profiles are a lot more work and trouble than a standard fuse, they
don't fly as well, they are just as much work at the field. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have no interest in going smaller, I am just
looking for minimal investment, quick and easy practice so that I don't destroy
a front line competition model. I have done electrics, they don't fly very
well, I just explained profiles, so now I am trying the 50 size. It needs
to be quick and easy and fly pretty well. BTW, I figured the profile cost
about $250-300 to build, $250-300 for engine, so it wasn't cheap.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regarding vehicles, look at the full size
van. I have the Chev 1500 express customized. Bought it in 1999, now
has almost 200,000 miles and gets about 16 mpg. Very versitile and
durable. Never done any major repair. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:11
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Header
Brace now turned smaller planes andvehicles</DIV>
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<DIV>Ed,</DIV>
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<DIV>A lot has been said about the smaller planes being less expensive, but as
soon as the smaller size is established then the expense will come right back
in the way of high tech composite airframes and all the other equipment.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What you are saying about size makes perfect sense -- being able to
transport easily. I have a full size Ford van, and before the 2m limit was
imposed, there were no 2m planes, everything was was smaller based on the
displacement limit. I could fit my Finesse (and the Runaround before that) in
the back of my van in one piece, which made my practice sessions very quick
and convenient. Very little setup time, pretty much fuel and fly.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bigger does fly better, however. There was a similar situation considered
in IMAC, they created the Mini-MAC class. To my knowlege, there has not been
the Mini-MAC class flown at any of the recent IMAC contests, apparently since
there has not been much interest in it.</DIV>
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<DIV>The video that someone posted of a profile pattern plane is interesting.
There are a few guys in our club that have flown the OMP Fusion, and it does
pattern pretty well. I've bought one, and my son may end up flying that in a
few pattern contests if we get the chance.</DIV>
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<DIV><A
href="http://ohiomodelplanes.com/67fusionarf/">http://ohiomodelplanes.com/67fusionarf/</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As for using a pickup, I have a small Nisson Frontier. I have
considered building a custom box to fit, which would extend past the tailgate
so I could transport larger planes than would fit in a normal shell.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Ed Miller <edbon85@charter.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">>From
a practical standpoint what has been going on in auto industry is 180
<BR>degrees to what pattern has done, we have grown BIG, Guppy like 2M
planes <BR>while cars and trucks are getting smaller. I've been out recently
looking <BR>at a replacement ( about 2 or 3 years away ) for my 2001 Astro
van which <BR>easily fits 2 - 2M planes and could carry 4 just as easily
along with a <BR>driver and passenger. In light of GM and Ford's decision to
stop producing <BR>minivans and the demise of the Astro van in '05, it looks
like domestic <BR>full size vans/pickup trucks or foreign minivans is all
that will be left. <BR>I chose the Astro in '01 to carry 2 - 2M planes with
support gear AND it's <BR>ability to tow more than a paperweight. An Astro
van set up like mine <BR>easily tows my 6x12 enclosed trailer with my Harley
dresser inside ( approx. <BR>2600 lbs ) AND it has also towed an 1800 lb
flat trailer with 6 Harley's on <BR>it over 250 miles several times, figure
a total weight of approximately 5500 <BR>lbs. With tape measure in hand I
have been measuring P/U beds and it seems <BR>the GM full size "short bed"
is 80" from inside the forward wall to the <BR>inside of the tailgate. To me
the fwd minivan offerings, though they make <BR>great people and plane
movers, cannot tow anything more than 1,000 lbs <BR>reliably over the long
haul, so they are not an option at least for me. <BR>Besides, as long as I
can I will buy from one of the big 2, I consider <BR>Chrysler a foreign
company now. I'd hate to "downsize" from the 2M planes <BR>as they fly much
better than their older, smaller counterparts but it would <BR>be nice to be
able to buy smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles to transport <BR>them. Is
anyone out there using an extended cab ( 2 rear mini suicide <BR>doors ) GM
P/U with the standard 6.5ft bed to transport 2M planes ?? I know <BR>the
same truck is available with the 8ft but it is really too
<BR>looonnnggg.........<BR>Ed M.<BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From:
"Dean Pappas" <D.PAPPAS@KODEOS.COM><BR>To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:39
PM<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Header Brace<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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