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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ahhh...I get it.&nbsp; I'm glad I spent that second 
year in 401, I, for one, needed it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm currently told&nbsp;I need to spend a second 
year in 402, that decision is yet to be made.&nbsp; If I had the natural 
abilities of many out there, there wouldn't be a question of what I would be 
flying next season.&nbsp; As it stands, I still fight to maintain a true 
line:-)</FONT></DIV>
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=jshulman@cfl.rr.com href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">JShulman</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org 
  href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:35 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 
  snap technique</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=750323403-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I don't 
  think they were different rules, but we didn't have a rule book. At the time, 
  Sportsman was only a few more maneuvers more than Novice was 
  anyway.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A 
  href="http://www.jasonshulman.com">www.jasonshulman.com</A><BR><A 
  href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A 
  href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A></FONT> </P>
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    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> 
    [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ken 
    Thompson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:26 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
    NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 snap 
    technique<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I suppose current rules make it easier on 
    contestants.&nbsp; If a contest doesn't offer your level, ie Sportsman, you 
    can fly in Intermediate and move back to Sportsman at the next contest, 
    inclusive of the Nats.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I didn't realize rules were different in 
    '85.;-)</FONT></DIV>
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      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      <A title=jshulman@cfl.rr.com 
      href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">JShulman</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
      title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org 
      href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> 
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:19 
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 
      snap technique</DIV>
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      <DIV><SPAN class=280231703-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Only 
      for the fact that I finished the contest and still had a plane (finished 
      last I think). I would have continued in 401, but they didn't have it at 
      the 85 Nats, so had to move up.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=280231703-06122006><FONT face=Arial 
      color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=280231703-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Anyway, 
      make sure not to get stuck just trying one technique for doing a snap. Try 
      all sorts of set-ups and inputs. You'll find one that works for 
      you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <P><FONT 
      size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT> 
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        size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
        nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org 
        [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ken 
        Thompson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:07 
        PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
        [NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 snap technique<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Guess that makes you pretty 
        special...</FONT></DIV>
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          style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
          <A title=jshulman@cfl.rr.com 
          href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">JShulman</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
          title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org 
          href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> 
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          <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 
          8:38 PM</DIV>
          <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 1 
          1/2 snap technique</DIV>
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          <DIV><SPAN class=910213602-06122006><FONT face=Arial 
          color=#0000ff>401... the only time I flew 401 was when I was 7 years 
          old (81 Jamesburg contest). And I don't think I was 2nd. You sure it 
          wasn't 402?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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          <P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A 
          href="http://www.jasonshulman.com">www.jasonshulman.com</A><BR><A 
          href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A 
          href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A></FONT> 
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            size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A 
            href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> 
            [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
            </B>Gray E Fowler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:50 
            PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
            [NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 snap 
            technique<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif 
            size=2>Jason</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Your lack 
            of a halo can be tracked back to that 401 contest that you came in 
            second against some "Old Guy"-probably 40 or so.</FONT> <BR><FONT 
            face=sans-serif size=2><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior Principal 
            Chemical Engineer<BR>Radome and Composites 
            Engineering<BR>Raytheon</FONT> <BR><BR><BR>
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                  &lt;jshulman@cfl.rr.com&gt;</B> </FONT><BR><FONT 
                  face=sans-serif size=1>Sent by: 
                  nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</FONT> 
                  <P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>12/05/2006 02:29 PM</FONT> 
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            face=Arial color=blue size=3>No wonder why I can't roll my snaps and 
            score...</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>&nbsp;</FONT> 
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            size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT><FONT 
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            nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org 
            [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
            </B>Gray E Fowler<B><BR>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:59 
            PM<B><BR>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<B><BR>Subject:</B> Re: 
            [NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 snap technique<BR></FONT><BR><FONT 
            face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Keith</FONT><FONT size=3> 
            <BR></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Proper execution, and 
            thus good scoring of this manuever requires years of preparation. 
            First you must win both 402 and 403 at the nationals hands 
            down....no doubt about it, back to back then win Masters the 
            followin year in the same manner. This creates the desired halo 
            effect which will then allow you simply "roll" through this 
            &nbsp;manuever without getting a zero.</FONT><FONT size=3> 
            </FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray 
            Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radome and 
            Composites Engineering<BR>Raytheon</FONT><FONT size=3> 
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                  <P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>12/05/2006 01:48 
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                      <TD><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>[NSRCA-discussion] 1 
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            size=3><BR><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>I've seen many 
            discussions on single snaps (pull elevator first, follow with rudder 
            and ailerons, and even some say reduce ailerons and elevator as 
            rotations begins, etc., etc.), but I've never seen any discussion 
            specifically regarding the 1 1/2 snap.</FONT><FONT size=3> 
            <BR>&nbsp;</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>This year's Masters 
            pattern has the 45 degree down 1 1/2 snap. I've gotten pretty good 
            at both the inverted and upright 45 degree single snap but this 1 
            1/2 snap is a different animal in that the up elevator that 
            initiates the snap will cause the nose to drop after the last 1/2 
            rotation if it's left in too long. I've not flown it too many times, 
            but the few times I've tried it I played with pulling out the 
            elevator and putting in a little down to try and hold the nose on at 
            45 degree angle.</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR>&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
            face=Arial size=2><BR>I'm curious to hear others thoughts on how to 
            execute this 1 1/2 on the 45 degree downline and keep the 45 degree 
            heading.</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR>&nbsp;</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
            size=2><BR>Thanks,</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial 
            size=2><BR>Keith Black</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT 
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