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<DIV><SPAN class=280231703-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Only for the
fact that I finished the contest and still had a plane (finished last I think).
I would have continued in 401, but they didn't have it at the 85 Nats, so had to
move up.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=280231703-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Anyway, make
sure not to get stuck just trying one technique for doing a snap. Try all sorts
of set-ups and inputs. You'll find one that works for you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT
size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Guess that makes you pretty
special...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=910213602-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>401...
the only time I flew 401 was when I was 7 years old (81 Jamesburg contest).
And I don't think I was 2nd. You sure it wasn't 402?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.jasonshulman.com">www.jasonshulman.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A></FONT> </P>
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size=2>Jason</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Your lack of a
halo can be tracked back to that 401 contest that you came in second
against some "Old Guy"-probably 40 or so.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
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face=Arial color=blue size=3>No wonder why I can't roll my snaps and
score...</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT>
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technique<BR></FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Keith</FONT><FONT
size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Proper execution, and
thus good scoring of this manuever requires years of preparation. First
you must win both 402 and 403 at the nationals hands down....no doubt
about it, back to back then win Masters the followin year in the same
manner. This creates the desired halo effect which will then allow you
simply "roll" through this manuever without getting a
zero.</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
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size=3><BR><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>I've seen many
discussions on single snaps (pull elevator first, follow with rudder and
ailerons, and even some say reduce ailerons and elevator as rotations
begins, etc., etc.), but I've never seen any discussion specifically
regarding the 1 1/2 snap.</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR> </FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><BR>This year's Masters pattern has the 45 degree down 1
1/2 snap. I've gotten pretty good at both the inverted and upright 45
degree single snap but this 1 1/2 snap is a different animal in that the
up elevator that initiates the snap will cause the nose to drop after the
last 1/2 rotation if it's left in too long. I've not flown it too many
times, but the few times I've tried it I played with pulling out the
elevator and putting in a little down to try and hold the nose on at 45
degree angle.</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR> </FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><BR>I'm curious to hear others thoughts on how to execute this 1
1/2 on the 45 degree downline and keep the 45 degree heading.</FONT><FONT
size=3> <BR> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Thanks,</FONT><FONT
size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Keith Black</FONT><FONT size=3>
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