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<DIV>I knew that "threading" in that direction would get you into the fray!!!! <G></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=790245314-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Yea... we are both getting old Dave...lol.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>You flew back in 85?? You must be getting old!!!</DIV>
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<DIV>I also flew Sportsman (402) at the 85 Nats,? my first Nats.? <G></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=280231703-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Only for the fact that I finished the contest and still had a plane (finished last I think). I would have continued in 401, but they didn't have it at the 85 Nats, so had to move up.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=280231703-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Anyway, make sure not to get stuck just trying one technique for doing a snap. Try all sorts of set-ups and inputs. You'll find one that works for you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT> </P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ken Thompson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 snap technique<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Guess that makes you pretty special...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=910213602-06122006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>401... the only time I flew 401 was when I was 7 years old (81 Jamesburg contest). And I don't think I was 2nd. You sure it wasn't 402?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A href="http://www.jasonshulman.com/">www.jasonshulman.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com/">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.composite-arf.com/">www.composite-arf.com</A></FONT> </P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gray E Fowler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 snap technique<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Jason</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Your lack of a halo can be tracked back to that 401 contest that you came in second against some "Old Guy"-probably 40 or so.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radome and Composites Engineering<BR>Raytheon</FONT> <BR><BR><BR>
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<P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<B><BR>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gray E Fowler<B><BR>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:59 PM<B><BR>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<B><BR>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 snap technique<BR></FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Keith</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Proper execution, and thus good scoring of this manuever requires years of preparation. First you must win both 402 and 403 at the nationals hands down....no doubt about it, back to back then win Masters the followin year in the same manner. This creates the desired halo effect which will then allow you simply "roll" through this ?manuever without getting a zero.</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemi
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