<DIV style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">we will probably need to point this out in the judge training. It seems to be one of the unless otherwise defined in the maneuver descripiton that goes against the general judge guidelines on the NSRCA web site under judging - general guidelines.<BR><BR>'<BR><P style="margin-bottom: 0pt;">All centered maneuvers should have these
properties unless otherwise defined in the maneuver description or in that
maneuver's downgrades. <B>Learn these and you have an excellent
start toward becoming a better judge. Maneuver properties:</B></P>
<TABLE border="0" height="110" width="98%"><TBODY><TR>
<TD height="11" width="55%"><B><FONT size="5"> - </FONT></B>Begin
and end with a straight line</TD>
<TD height="11" width="45%"><B><FONT size="5"> - </FONT></B>Rolls
centered on lines</TD>
</TR>
<TR>
<TD height="29" width="55%"><B><FONT size="5"> - </FONT></B>Middle
of the maneuver centered<BR>
on the judges</TD>
<TD height="29" width="45%"><B><FONT size="5"> - </FONT></B>Roll
rates the same</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>'<BR><BR>Randy<BR><BR>--- DaveL322@comcast.net wrote:<BR><BR>From: DaveL322@comcast.net<BR>To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Where does center work out<BR>Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:23:47 +0000<BR><BR>
<DIV>Yes, I expect the 1/2 rolls will be faster, but they do not have to be, and whether the 1/2 rolls match the slow rolls or not is NOT a judging criteria.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Dave</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Fred Huber" <fhhuber@clearwire.net> <BR><BR>> the roll rate is EXPECTED to be different between the 2/2 and the slow roll. <BR>> I think they stuck the combo in to make sure pilots knew the difference <BR>> between a normal axial roll rate and a slow roll rate. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> My observation... the ones who were getting good scores had the plane at <BR>> appx 1/4 roll in the slow roll as they passed center. This varied some <BR>> based on the difference in roll rates... so being ON Knife edge at center is <BR>> not a requirement, just a ballpark indicator. <BR>> Note: I haven't been judging Masters, just observing the judges and the <BR>> pilots' performance at the local contest. So I am ASSUMING they were <BR>> judging the maneuver correctly. <BR>> <BR>> I'm not sure how long of a !
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ion between the 1/2 rolls is allowed <BR>> before it gets called inverted flight.... but a longer hesitation between <BR>> potentially could put the pause between the 2/2 and the slow roll on center. <BR>> (if a long enough hesitation is permissible) <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Ed Miller" <BR>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <BR>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:50 AM <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Where does center work out <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Same here. To fit it all in the horizontal segment, the 2 - 1/2 rolls are <BR>> > at a higher roll rate than the slow roll and then the slow roll starts <BR>> > before center. If I speed up the slow roll rate, it basically doesn't look <BR>> > like a slow roll. I guess my question is, to get the best score, does the <BR>> > roll rate have to remain constant throughout the maneuver ?? <BR>&!
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; Ed M. <BR>> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: "Ron Lockhart" <BR>> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <BR>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:03 AM <BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Where does center work out <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > I sure don't have it figured out yet- But I'm working toward crisp 2/2 <BR>> > and starting the slow roll a bit <BR>> > before center. Then, working on a not toooo slow, slow roll. <BR>> > <BR>> > Later, Ron <BR>> > <BR>> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: Stuart Chale <BR>> > To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' <BR>> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:59 PM <BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Maneuver 4 Masters pattern <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > At least that one has an obvious center and is a normal length center <BR>> > maneuver. Who decided tha!
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f two followed by a slow roll should be <BR>> > done on center J I have yet to fit that in the box J <BR>> > <BR>> > To those that have figured it out; what part of the sequence is coming <BR>> > out <BR>> > on center (besides the middle)? <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Stuart <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ <BR>> > <BR>> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of <BR>> > GSailwhale@aol.com <BR>> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:45 PM <BR>> > To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Maneuver 4 Masters pattern <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Jim, <BR>> > <BR>> > I'm not worried about cente!
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