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<div>We may want to revisit the issue by making the rule more explicit (of how we want the paperwork to be handled). Best way to handle that is proposal in the next rules cycle. Anyone (AMA member) may draft a proposal....although the CB considers all proposals, yours may have a better shot at acceptance if it was presented through the NSRCA. We have run a campaign of proposals regularly for many years </div>
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI sporting code on judge transparency<br>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fred,</FONT></div>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2>my point is post them...not leave loose tear sheets on a table for pilots to take away from the table. This has been the practice at the NATS. They need to be posted in some way. Not just tossed as loose sheets for the wind and pilots to remove from the public view</FONT></div>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2>That is all my point was. I had a conversation with an FAI pilot back after the NATS and he has been advocating this the past 3 years yet still not happening.</FONT></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org', '');">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:13 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI sporting code on judge transparency</div>
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<div><FONT size=2>To me, "public" can be debated somewhat.... </FONT></div>
<div><FONT size=2>Its probably adequate to post them on a table where anyone WHO WANTS TO can see them. </FONT></div>
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<div><FONT size=2>All the Pattern contests I have been to, the scores have been taped to a table where anyone who wanted to look had access. Good enough. Don't make it harder than it has to be.</FONT></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org', '');">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:21 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI sporting code on judge transparency</div>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2>Public is not left on a table....Public is posted for the world to see.</FONT></div>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2>check out the awesome job done by the Swiss at the last Euro Champs. Too bad we in the USA with more pattern flyers than anywhere else can't get with the program.</FONT></div>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><A href="http://www.em06.ch/ranking_preliminary.asp" target=_blank>http://www.em06.ch/ranking_preliminary.asp</A></FONT></div>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne</FONT></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=patterndude@comcast.net href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('patterndude@comcast.net', '');">Lance Van Nostrand</A> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org', '');">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 19, 2006 6:17 PM</div>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2>To all rule-meisters,</FONT></div>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know there are some on this list that have deep insight into the intent and history of the F3A sporting code. I hope to either get a solid answer or pointed in the right direction. This is not an idle request.</FONT></div>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2>Part 5.1.8 Marking - last sentence </FONT></div>
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<div align=left>The scores given by each judge for each competitor shall be made public at the end of each round of competition.</div>
<div align=left>What level of transparency is mandated? Is it enough to report the scores from judge 1-4 or is it expected that the identity of the judge be known as well?</div>
<div align=left>--Lance</div>
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